Would you guys consider Allah las, Los tones, Dead Ghosts, Black Marble, skegs, and sun room, as surf rock? Or do you think they’re all different genres some psychedelic others 80s nostalgia vibe groups?
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Posted on Feb 11 2025 08:15 PM
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Posted on Feb 11 2025 09:41 PM
Calling it surf rock opens things up to a whole debate... Allah Las definitely are not surf music. Dead Ghosts, not surf music. I'm not familiar with all those others but I'm guessing same story. Any time I hear the term "surf rock" applied, my thought is that the person using it doesn't really get the surf thing as most people here understand it. I know this sounds elitist and bullshitty. There's really quite a wide spectrum of music that gets classified as surf and each person has their own personal tolerance for its bounds but the first two bands I mentioned above most definitely fall outside those bounds, by any definition. Still good music, of course! I saw an Allah Las show and loved it, even though the kick drum was mic'd hilariously loud. I first encountered them via their cover of No Werewolf by the Frantics, which wasn't surf music. Not even when the Ventures covered it as The Fourth Dimension. Last edited: Feb 12, 2025 01:58:11 |
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Posted on Feb 11 2025 10:20 PM
You're going to get some people bristling at the term "surf rock" in general, a lot of people prefer surf music. Admittedly I'm only familiar with Allah-Las, but if they're emblematic of the rest, I wouldn't call them surf. I also see the term applied to King Gizzard. Both strike me as psych, with little to link them back to 1961-1964 surf music other than reverb. I see it applied to them a lot (I think King Gizzard is the best selling thing with the surf tag applied to it on bandcamp), but surf music has been very focused on instrumentals for a while, save for a very specific vocal style that I don't hear in groups like these. That said, not every band needs to fit neatly into a genre bucket. A lot of surf bands are explicitly trying to replicate a certain style, that's why we'd call them surf bands. But genres are best used as descriptors, so I think you can still be described with surf even if you're not a surf band. I wouldn't call Khruangbin a surf band. I have no idea what to call them, even though there are a lot of similar groups now. I might use the word surf if I had to describe them though. —Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio Last edited: Feb 11, 2025 22:21:39 |
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Posted on Feb 12 2025 07:15 AM
A lot of reviews I read of contemporary indie rock music will use the term surf when there's a twangy lead employed in an otherwise typical indie rock song. |
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Posted on Feb 18 2025 09:24 AM
Easy call for me - I never heard of any of those bands! —-- |
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Posted on Feb 19 2025 12:04 PM
No. Last edited: Feb 19, 2025 12:06:11 |
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Posted on Feb 19 2025 05:50 PM
It's a relatively newer genre of indie rock performers who are being influenced by surf, the ocean, Jack Johnson, Beach Boys, etc. It is very melodic and stays away from the more R&B sound of a lot of traditional surf music. (Surf music for me is instrumental only) It is vocal music highlighted with sometimes reverb or 60's/70's guitar sounds. Very popular in Australia who use the term "surf rock" for a wide variety of their music, alot of which has kind of taken the most important elements of surf out, including reverb. In the states some of the better stuff, (at least for me) is: The Walters - New Girl (Tom's Song) - Heavily late 60s/early 70s Beach Boys influenced The Growlers - Love Test - The Growlers use a lot of surf sounding guitars in their music. This was the quickest example I could find. And my personal favorite - Very Beach Boys including falsetto with garage sounding drums Surf.The most dangerous of genres... Surfcat MARCH OF THE DEAD SURFERS! (2024) - Agent Octopus SG101 Festival 2025 Click Here! Last edited: Feb 19, 2025 17:54:45 |
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