Iron Butterfly with Mosrites through Fender Amps

Surfgitar

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Posted on Sep 30 2007 08:32 AM

Came across this - wouldn't have imagined Iron Butterfly played Mosrite Guitars through Fender amps. Great backline, but stupid video from 1970. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRDfDIO6Ck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekqgUjoS14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0sMOLt5cJk

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Dan_Francisco

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Posted on Sep 30 2007 08:55 AM

Surfgitar
Came across this - wouldn't have imagined Iron Butterfly played Mosrite Guitars through Fender amps.

funny, me neither, but watching in that context shows how close the 'Butterfly are to the surf sound.
mind you, with that gear...

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mom_surfing

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Posted on Sep 30 2007 08:56 AM

Surfgitar
Came across this - wouldn't have imagined Iron Butterfly played Mosrite Guitars through Fender amps. Great backline, but stupid video from 1970. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRDfDIO6Ck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekqgUjoS14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0sMOLt5cJk

thanks for sharing. so many bands from this era seemed to have the forever solos, but i think these guys were up in the top ten.

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okonacat

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Posted on Sep 30 2007 11:15 AM

Nice footage! I had never seen that before. Thanks for posting. I have always assumed Iron Butterfly had a similar deal with Mosrite that The Ventures had. They used them on their first album, "Heavy", with Danny Weis on lead, and continued to use Mosrites when Erik Brann replaced Weis for In a Gada da Vida, and the third album, "Ball." Fortunately, they found that Mosrites were perfect for the sound they were after, especially when combined with fuzz. When their lineup changed again, by 1970, they were using different axes. I had never seen them using the Fender Showmans, during the band's heyday but perhaps IB found them more reliable (and louder) than the Vox Super Beatles, which they also used. Iron Butterfly tended to sound better in the studio than live, so if I were in their shoes, I would have chosen a stack of Dual Showmans for live work as well. I believe in that first video link, it is the studio version of "In the Time of Our Lives" dubbed over the concert footage. For any of you Mosrite/Vox Continental fans out there, try listening to Butterfly's 3rd album, "Ball." It's got different styles of music, and I think their best effort. Best cut, Belda-Beast. Another unlikely user of the Mosrite Ventures Model was Fred Sonic Smith, 2nd guitarist of The MC5, who used one for Kick out the Jams.

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Posted on Oct 01 2007 01:06 PM

sorry off topic. but had to post this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdFWa_OgciI&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of7gdaiq2EI&mode=related&search=

rock on my bruthas and sistas.

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DennistheMenace

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Posted on Mar 07 2008 12:37 PM

Very different, BUT, on an older Butterfly Website (not sure if it is still there since they have updated it recently), they had stated to get the "Butterfly Sound," their Original gear was made up of VOX Super Beatles (which were heavily modified) and Mosrite "Venture Model" guitars.
The only explanation for the Fender Amps at that one concert was maybe a last minute Concert??? It was kinda "hokey looking" anyways. It was amazing how they sounded EXACTLY like their album plugged into Showmans without guitar cables and Erik didn't need a Footswitch to turn off the Distortion halfway thru the song when you hear him playing "clean".....amazing!! And no, they were'nt wireless either.....

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.....choose the 'rite stuff!
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Surfgitar

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Posted on Mar 07 2008 12:58 PM

Hokey, yes. Bad album sync-ing too. However, I thought I saw you and Rich somewhere in that crowd of kids and figured you'd rememeber the gig.

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DennistheMenace

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Posted on Mar 07 2008 01:11 PM

Surfgitar
Hokey, yes. Bad album sync-ing too. However, I thought I saw you and Rich somewhere in that crowd of kids and figured you'd rememeber the gig.

A few years B4 my time, but ya mite of seen some of my older cousins!!

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http://www.vintagerock4.com
www.mosriteforum.com

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dp

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Posted on Mar 07 2008 01:14 PM

Iron Butterfly should try these Mosrites (from Strawberry Alarm Clock):

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DennistheMenace

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Posted on Mar 07 2008 01:31 PM

dp
Iron Butterfly should try these Mosrites (from Strawberry Alarm Clock):

image

DP, that's hitting below the waist Bro (LOL) I saw those damn things SELL on E-Bay for $53,000 and change! I'll bet you Ed King and the rest of Strawberry Alarm Clock wish they still had them!

p.s. It's times like these, that you wish you had won the lottery......

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.....choose the 'rite stuff!
.........owner of 9 Mosrites
proud owner and documented:
1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038
http://www.vintagerock4.com
www.mosriteforum.com

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Posted on Mar 07 2008 04:23 PM

wow mann i love iron butterfly i knew there was a reason behind it haha

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DennistheMenace

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Posted on Mar 12 2008 08:24 PM

dp
Iron Butterfly should try these Mosrites (from Strawberry Alarm Clock):

image

DP,
Do you know, or anybody for that matter, know if the new owner of
these Longboards might be a member of this Forum??

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.......make the Mos' of it,
.....choose the 'rite stuff!
.........owner of 9 Mosrites
proud owner and documented:
1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038
http://www.vintagerock4.com
www.mosriteforum.com

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Posted on Mar 15 2008 11:54 PM

I just saw them on t.v. tonight performing ina gadda (however you spell it). It was one of those PBS "remembering the 60's" type programs. They sound just the same and were still playing Mosrite Ventures model bass and guitar. (changed out pickups, though--Jazz's in the bass and I don't know what in the guitar).

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Surfgitar Joined: Mar 16, 2007 Posts: 1342 Ft. Lauderdale, Florida	Posted on Sep 30 2007 08:32 AM Came across this - wouldn't have imagined Iron Butterfly played Mosrite Guitars through Fender amps. Great backline, but stupid video from 1970. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRDfDIO6Ck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekqgUjoS14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0sMOLt5cJk — CUTBACK Top
Dan_Francisco Joined: Sep 21, 2007 Posts: 105 Las England.	Posted on Sep 30 2007 08:55 AM Surfgitar Came across this - wouldn't have imagined Iron Butterfly played Mosrite Guitars through Fender amps. funny, me neither, but watching in that context shows how close the 'Butterfly are to the surf sound. mind you, with that gear... — http://www.myspace.com/surfpunkdiscopanzer Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5325 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Sep 30 2007 08:56 AM Surfgitar Came across this - wouldn't have imagined Iron Butterfly played Mosrite Guitars through Fender amps. Great backline, but stupid video from 1970. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRDfDIO6Ck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekqgUjoS14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0sMOLt5cJk thanks for sharing. so many bands from this era seemed to have the forever solos, but i think these guys were up in the top ten. — www.surfintheeye.com Top
okonacat Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 34 Michigan	Posted on Sep 30 2007 11:15 AM Nice footage! I had never seen that before. Thanks for posting. I have always assumed Iron Butterfly had a similar deal with Mosrite that The Ventures had. They used them on their first album, "Heavy", with Danny Weis on lead, and continued to use Mosrites when Erik Brann replaced Weis for In a Gada da Vida, and the third album, "Ball." Fortunately, they found that Mosrites were perfect for the sound they were after, especially when combined with fuzz. When their lineup changed again, by 1970, they were using different axes. I had never seen them using the Fender Showmans, during the band's heyday but perhaps IB found them more reliable (and louder) than the Vox Super Beatles, which they also used. Iron Butterfly tended to sound better in the studio than live, so if I were in their shoes, I would have chosen a stack of Dual Showmans for live work as well. I believe in that first video link, it is the studio version of "In the Time of Our Lives" dubbed over the concert footage. For any of you Mosrite/Vox Continental fans out there, try listening to Butterfly's 3rd album, "Ball." It's got different styles of music, and I think their best effort. Best cut, Belda-Beast. Another unlikely user of the Mosrite Ventures Model was Fred Sonic Smith, 2nd guitarist of The MC5, who used one for Kick out the Jams. Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25727 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Oct 01 2007 01:06 PM sorry off topic. but had to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdFWa_OgciI&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of7gdaiq2EI&mode=related&search= rock on my bruthas and sistas. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on Mar 07 2008 12:37 PM Very different, BUT, on an older Butterfly Website (not sure if it is still there since they have updated it recently), they had stated to get the "Butterfly Sound," their Original gear was made up of VOX Super Beatles (which were heavily modified) and Mosrite "Venture Model" guitars. The only explanation for the Fender Amps at that one concert was maybe a last minute Concert??? It was kinda "hokey looking" anyways. It was amazing how they sounded EXACTLY like their album plugged into Showmans without guitar cables and Erik didn't need a Footswitch to turn off the Distortion halfway thru the song when you hear him playing "clean".....amazing!! And no, they were'nt wireless either..... — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Top
Surfgitar Joined: Mar 16, 2007 Posts: 1342 Ft. Lauderdale, Florida	Posted on Mar 07 2008 12:58 PM Hokey, yes. Bad album sync-ing too. However, I thought I saw you and Rich somewhere in that crowd of kids and figured you'd rememeber the gig. — CUTBACK Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on Mar 07 2008 01:11 PM Surfgitar Hokey, yes. Bad album sync-ing too. However, I thought I saw you and Rich somewhere in that crowd of kids and figured you'd rememeber the gig. A few years B4 my time, but ya mite of seen some of my older cousins!! — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Top
dp Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california	Posted on Mar 07 2008 01:14 PM Iron Butterfly should try these Mosrites (from Strawberry Alarm Clock): image Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on Mar 07 2008 01:31 PM dp Iron Butterfly should try these Mosrites (from Strawberry Alarm Clock): image DP, that's hitting below the waist Bro (LOL) I saw those damn things SELL on E-Bay for $53,000 and change! I'll bet you Ed King and the rest of Strawberry Alarm Clock wish they still had them! p.s. It's times like these, that you wish you had won the lottery...... — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Top
Mr_Reverb63 Joined: Jul 10, 2007 Posts: 919 San Pablo, CA	Posted on Mar 07 2008 04:23 PM wow mann i love iron butterfly i knew there was a reason behind it haha — -Zanti Instagram: My IG Combo Tezeta IG Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on Mar 12 2008 08:24 PM dp Iron Butterfly should try these Mosrites (from Strawberry Alarm Clock): image DP, Do you know, or anybody for that matter, know if the new owner of these Longboards might be a member of this Forum?? — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Top
websurfer Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 1753	Posted on Mar 15 2008 11:54 PM I just saw them on t.v. tonight performing ina gadda (however you spell it). It was one of those PBS "remembering the 60's" type programs. They sound just the same and were still playing Mosrite Ventures model bass and guitar. (changed out pickups, though--Jazz's in the bass and I don't know what in the guitar). Top

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