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Playing surf and blues...I only play in my house, so I don't need to worry about playing with bands, etc.

Right now I've condensed my collection to a LIne 6 Catalyst 200 2x12.
It's surprisingly good, but still looking for something different.

I'm in between the following:
Hot Rod Deluxe IV
Blues Deluxe
Tonemaster Twin Reverb in cream
Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb in cream
Princeton reverb 68

I can't spend more than what these cost. Which would you choose and why?

I would personally choose the Princeton reverb 68 out of those choices if you’re only playing at home. The hot rod and blues deluxe are very loud, and you won’t be able to turn it up to a point where you get the advantage of a tube amp. The TM deluxe reverb would be my second choice but you already have that line 6 modeling amp that I’m sure can di into your computer or work with headphones.

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Just to throw a curveball, I'd use my laptop with Logic going through some good powered monitors. You can get some excellent guitar tones out of logicpro these days.

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I would also go for the Princeton - good for lower volume playing, has real spring reverb and can still get loud.

Tonemaster Deluxe - good sound, light weight!

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I'd go for the Princeton, but the 65.

taijiguy wrote:

I'd go for the Princeton, but the 65.

What he said.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

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I'm VERY happy with the Chris Stapleton'62 Princeton hooked to a old timey Fender Reverb. With it's 12" Eminence, it can get almost as loud as my Deluxe Reverb.

Unfortunately, The Stapleton is on the expensive side. Mine is a discounted "open box" one that was reasonably priced.

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Last edited: Feb 23, 2024 13:47:39

Have you considered Quilter? Their Aviator Cub is close to half of what a Princeton would cost. I understand a preference for tubes, but the Quilter on its own sounds great - extremely close to a tube amp. I've used a Quilter live for a surf gig, and was not missing the tubes.

WoodyJ wrote:

I'm VERY happy with the Chris Stapleton'62 Princeton hooked to a old timey Fender Reverb. With it's 12" Eminence, it can get almost as loud as my Deluxe Reverb.

Unfortunately, The Stapleton is on the expensive side. Mine is a discounted "open box" one that was reasonably priced.

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I have a boutique amp that is quite similar, circuit-wise, and it’s great for Surf.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

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synchro wrote:

WoodyJ wrote:

I'm VERY happy with the Chris Stapleton'62 Princeton hooked to a old timey Fender Reverb. With it's 12" Eminence, it can get almost as loud as my Deluxe Reverb.

Unfortunately, The Stapleton is on the expensive side. Mine is a discounted "open box" one that was reasonably priced.

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I have a boutique amp that is quite similar, circuit-wise, and it’s great for Surf.

Agree - I also got my '62 Princeton Chris Stapleton Edition for a discounted price and it's one of my most played amps at home. I combine it with my SurfyBear Classic and pedals. Great handwired amp if you can find a used or discounted one for under $2K.

If the cost rules out the '62 Princeton Chris Stapleton Edition, I'd either go for the '65 Reissue Princeton or the Tone Master Deluxe. My playing out amp is my Tone Master Twin Reverb and it's awesome - lightweight, 5 attenuated settings (1W, 5W, 12W, 22W, 40W and 85W), and Line Out.

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That's a sweet looking combo, Woody! I lucked into a Chris Stapleton Princeton on FB marketplace last Fall. I had to drive 3 hours each way to get it, but it was a crazy good deal (as in almost too good to be true). Could not be happier/more pleased with the amp for surf/instro/spaghetti western type stuff!

I'm currently using a SA True Spring reverb pedal (that sounds great), but seeing that reissue tank paired with the amp is giving me (expensive) thoughts.

-murph

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murph wrote:

That's a sweet looking combo, Woody! I lucked into a Chris Stapleton Princeton on FB marketplace last Fall. I had to drive 3 hours each way to get it, but it was a crazy good deal (as in almost too good to be true). Could not be happier/more pleased with the amp for surf/instro/spaghetti western type stuff!

I'm currently using a SA True Spring reverb pedal (that sounds great), but seeing that reissue tank paired with the amp is giving me (expensive) thoughts.

-murph

That’s my rig, much of the time. I have a Winfield Tremor, which is functionally the same as the Stapleton Princeton. It’s pretty much the same basic timbre as a Brown Panel Showman, but in a much smaller package.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

Can confirm that a 6G2 Princeton with a 12" speaker is a most righteous sounding amp for playing at home. All you have to do is add your own reverb.

I am in the same boat and leaning towards the TM Deluxe. How is the Princeton at lower volumes?

wayrayrla wrote:

I am in the same boat and leaning towards the TM Deluxe. How is the Princeton at lower volumes?

Princetons are fairly low-gain, docile amps. They do quite well at lower volumes.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

wayrayrla wrote:

I am in the same boat and leaning towards the TM Deluxe. How is the Princeton at lower volumes?

The Princeton sounds surprisingly warm and full at low volume... the 12" speaker likely contributes to that. It gets loud FAST, so most times I am playing with the knob between 2-3. It stays clean up til around 6+, so if you want any kind of grit or breakup at lower volumes, you may want to run a pedal. I have an always on EP Booster (just to fatten the tone of the jag a little) and a mini MXR Timmy for drive tonezzzz (seldom used but nice to have available).

-murph

http://www.reverbnation.com/elmiragesurf
http://www.reverbnation.com/aminorconspiracy

"I knew I was in trouble when the Coco-Loco tasted like water!" -- morphball

My Princeton Reverb is a 65 PRRI with a Weber California 10" speaker with aluminum dome. I tried a limited edition PRRI with a 12" speaker. I didn't like it. It sounded "boxy" to me, so I went with the 10". The Weber really gives it some punch and clarity, and has a nice, fat sound.

I have a Tone Master Twin which I really like and use 99% of the time and I have a ton of tube amps! The light weight, attenuator and the direct out are all super useable, plus it sounds great and I'm just a bedroom player.
Being my Tone Master Twin works so well I would suggest trying a Tone Master Princeton.

rockndawg wrote:

I have a Tone Master Twin which I really like and use 99% of the time and I have a ton of tube amps! The light weight, attenuator and the direct out are all super useable, plus it sounds great and I'm just a bedroom player.
Being my Tone Master Twin works so well I would suggest trying a Tone Master Princeton.

The TM TR is also enticing to me! Two of my tube amps both need work and I am really struggling to put more $ into them. I love the surf stuff at home and do a church gig where the attenuator would be trick!

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