GretschEastwood
Joined: Dec 23, 2020
Posts: 53
Bradenton, FL
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Posted on Nov 11 2021 06:51 AM
Two years ago, I started playing guitar again after a 40 year break (I'm 68). My goal was to get back to surf and related guitar sounds. Took lessons and learned some music theory I should have learned the first twenty years I played.
Anyway, I had no idea what Locrian Mode was until I stumbled onto this video of 5 musicians writing short pieces in Locrian. The whole video is excellent, but the initial piece by Samurai Guitarist is a surf tune.
Check it out and tell me what you think.
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Redfeather
Joined: Jul 30, 2016
Posts: 893
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Posted on Nov 12 2021 03:03 PM
I recorded a quick and dirty attempt at a m7b5 based surf song a while back, with mixed results. I simply hammered on the vii with quick forays to the vi and the I to make it interesting. Plus a bunch of noodling.
The challenge for us, though, is to come up with a compelling and pleasant locrian melody with a surfy feel. I'm going to jump back onto this project and see what I can come up with.
As for that video, I like Nahre's composition the best.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4462
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Nov 13 2021 08:25 PM
I like it. I haven’t done a lot with modes, but I occasionally use super locrian to get an outside sound in a Blues. Basically, play a melodic minor from the 7th degree over blues changes. For example, play notes from a Bb melodic minor over the I chord of a Blues in A. It sounds very strange, but it ends up making sense, and if you want to bring it back to sounding inside the changes, just pivot a flat fifth and use notes selected from an E melodic minor.
But this locrian surf tune is really powerful. It sounds like the son of the Munster’s theme, and I mean that in a complimentary way. It’s edgy, but it resolves nicely and is musically satisfying.
Another modal tune that I have loved since it was released is the Classics IV’s Stormy, which is in E dorian. Since the first time I heard it, this song really grabbed me.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on May 23 2022 05:53 PM
In Byzantine music, their 4th mode (οίκος δ)is Locrian. I found an example even with a raised leading tone. And they’ve been singing that in churches for a thousand years or more. They mask the locrianness with pedal points (drones) that give the impression of a less dissonant tonality. This is the opposite of what Ben Levin does with his f# locrian drone. They also ‘soften’ the intonation altering the pitches somewhat. Personally, I don’t like the sound at all but some people do.
Almost forgot: Björk’s tune Army Of Me is locrian. That driving bass ostinato is purely locrian and the melody manages the nasty mode by harping on only a few notes. It avoids any i m7b5 by staying strictly non-harmonic.
No Doubt’s catchy tune Hella Good is quasilocrian with a bass riff that uses a b2, M3, #4, b7. Weird.
— Squink Out!
Last edited: May 23, 2022 17:59:25
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