Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 08:13 AM
Hi everyone!
I was trying to buy Staytrem for my 50th anniversary Jag, but no way, even from the Staytrem site.
Then I was offered here drop in bridge with tunomatic posts, seems to be a good option, what do you think? Any experience with these? My guitar tech says it will be reversible to original bridge if it won’t work for me, but I sill have some doubts.


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edwardsand
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 09:04 AM
I've never used such a thing, but it looks like it would keep the bridge from rocking back and forth - that might be good for a hard tail set up, but the tremolo is designed to work with one that moves.
But couldn't you take that bridge and move the saddles onto a regular jaguar bridge plate? Seems that the saddles and screws are the only thing that's different from stock. And you could always switch things back.
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DeathTide
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 09:47 AM
Does the Staytrem not fit? They are taking international orders again.
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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 09:50 AM
edwardsand wrote:
I've never used such a thing, but it looks like it would keep the bridge from rocking back and forth - that might be good for a hard tail set up, but the tremolo is designed to work with one that moves.
But couldn't you take that bridge and move the saddles onto a regular jaguar bridge plate? Seems that the saddles and screws are the only thing that's different from stock. And you could always switch things back.
You mean the one with threaded barrels? Not sure, may be somebody would add? I’ve got a Mustang bridge on the guitar, but it’s for 7.5 radius but my neck is 9.5. Are the barrels on any these bridges switchable, who knows?
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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 09:51 AM
DeathTide wrote:
Does the Staytrem not fit? They are taking international orders again.
Nope(

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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 09:52 AM
DeathTide wrote:
Does the Staytrem not fit? They are taking international orders again.
Nope(

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BrentD
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 10:40 AM
I'd contact StayTrem if you're considering one. That Jag should have a vintage style bridge with a 9.5" radius. I think the StayTrem warnings about AOM bridges are for MIM Classic Player models and Squier JMJMs.
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SandBug
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 11:33 AM
That bridge you have is a Staytrem bridge but the legs have been removed and replaced with tuno-matic posts. I can tell the bridge portion is Staytrem from the screw spacing and the plastic screw washer. It's not meant to be used with tunomatic posts. Also, if you use that then you'll have to remove the original thimbles in the guitar and replace them with the tunomatic ones, it's not impossible, but the size probably won't match so there will most likely have to be some modification to the thimble holes, at the very least there will be ridges put in the holes from the lines on the tunomatic thimbles. It's not the proper way to do things, and as edwardsand stated, it would stop the bridge from rocking. That guitar is too nice to put tunomatics in it. I definitely suggst not to use that combination you have there.
A proper whole Staytrem should most certainly fit in your guitar. I'm confused as to why you say it wouldn't fit. Have the thimbles been replaced or re-drilled? Could you please post a picture of the the thimbles on your Jaguar. As BrentD said, you should contact Staytrem, he can tell you for sure that his bridges will work. If your guitar is built for a vintage style bridge (which i believe it is) then a Staytrem would be an excellent option. And of course you could also go with the original type Jaguar bridge with adjustable saddles. This one should also fit... https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-american-pro-jaguar-jazzmaster-bridge-7709942000/ . Your guitar is beautiful, it deserves the best.
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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 12:03 PM
SandBug wrote:
That bridge you have is a Staytrem bridge but the legs have been removed and replaced with tuno-matic posts. I can tell the bridge portion is Staytrem from the screw spacing and the plastic screw washer. It's not meant to be used with tunomatic posts. Also, if you use that then you'll have to remove the original thimbles in the guitar and replace them with the tunomatic ones, it's not impossible, but the size probably won't match so there will most likely have to be some modification to the thimble holes, at the very least there will be ridges put in the holes from the lines on the tunomatic thimbles. It's not the proper way to do things, and as edwardsand stated, it would stop the bridge from rocking. That guitar is too nice to put tunomatics in it. I definitely suggst not to use that combination you have there.
A proper whole Staytrem should most certainly fit in your guitar. I'm confused as to why you say it wouldn't fit. Have the thimbles been replaced or re-drilled? Could you please post a picture of the the thimbles on your Jaguar. As BrentD said, you should contact Staytrem, he can tell you for sure that his bridges will work. If your guitar is built for a vintage style bridge (which i believe it is) then a Staytrem would be an excellent option. And of course you could also go with the original type Jaguar bridge with adjustable saddles. This one should also fit... https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-american-pro-jaguar-jazzmaster-bridge-7709942000/ . Your guitar is beautiful, it deserves the best.
This is a type of Staytrem that was produced some years ago, they’ve called it «drop-in for TOM» or something like this. You are completely right, these posts will be not rocking so the whole tremolo feel will be different.
I did not say Staytrem will not fit, it sure will. I just cannot buy it anywhere, as you see above they are not available on site, as well as on ebay or reverb. That’s why I check other solutions and this one is right here in Kyiv, so decided to give it a look. Probably not a good way as you say, although my guitar tech says that no drilling or any modifications will be needed.
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Surfadelphia
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 12:21 PM
Actually, if you go to Darren Riley's website, he appears to have the Fender OEM American Pro Jag/Jazzmaster bridges in stock, which are similar to the Staytrem w/ solid Mustang saddles in a set 9.5" radius. The only problem you might encounter with the American Pro bridge is the saddle spacing. The Staytrem has a slightly narrower spacing to properly fit the Jag/Jazmaster fret board width. The American Pro bridge (at least from what I have read) has a slightly wider Mustang string spacing width that probaly works ok with the American Pro Jags/Jazzmasters which have a slightly wider nut width (1.687"). If you can order a 9.5" Staytrem (they appear to be shipping internationally now) that would probably the be never to be second guessed, no regrets option.
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SandBug
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California
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 12:23 PM
Samurai wrote:
This is a type of Staytrem that was produced some years ago, they’ve called it «drop-in for TOM» or something like this. You are completely right, these posts will be not rocking so the whole tremolo feel will be different.
I did not say Staytrem will not fit, it sure will. I just cannot buy it anywhere, as you see above they are not available on site, as well as on ebay or reverb. That’s why I check other solutions and this one is right here in Kyiv, so decided to give it a look. Probably not a good way as you say, although my guitar tech says that no drilling or any modifications will be needed.
Thank you, my friend, I understand now, thanks for clarifying.
I would put in a pre-order for your bridge from StayTrem, the sooner you're in the que the better. I'm not sure how long it will take.
Also did you happen to check out the link i posted to the Fender modern bridge type? It's 9.5" radius and narrow string spacing, they are in stock. They are almost the same as Staytrem. Maybe the seller will ship to Russia.
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SandBug
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 12:32 PM
Surfadelphia wrote:
Actually, if you go to Darren Riley's website, he appears to have the Fender OEM American Pro Jag/Jazzmaster bridges in stock, which are similar to the Staytrem w/ solid Mustang saddles in a set 9.5" radius. The only problem you might encounter with the American Pro bridge is the saddle spacing. The Staytrem has a slightly narrower spacing to properly fit the Jag/Jazmaster fret board width. The American Pro bridge (at least from what I have read) has a slightly wider Mustang string spacing width that probaly works ok with the American Pro Jags/Jazzmasters which have a slightly wider nut width (1.687"). If you can order a 9.5" Staytrem (they appear to be shipping internationally now) that would probably the be never to be second guessed, no regrets option.
According to the specs on DR's site the AM-PRo bridge has a narrow spacing of 2 1/16'' , which is 52.3875mm, so that's essentially the same spacing as the StayTrems. Most Mustang bridges have a spacing of 55mm.
https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-american-pro-jaguar-jazzmaster-bridge-7709942000/
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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 12:32 PM
Surfadelphia wrote:
Actually, if you go to Darren Riley's website, he appears to have the Fender OEM American Pro Jag/Jazzmaster bridges in stock, which are similar to the Staytrem w/ solid Mustang saddles in a set 9.5" radius. The only problem you might encounter with the American Pro bridge is the saddle spacing. The Staytrem has a slightly narrower spacing to properly fit the Jag/Jazmaster fret board width. The American Pro bridge (at least from what I have read) has a slightly wider Mustang string spacing width that probaly works ok with the American Pro Jags/Jazzmasters which have a slightly wider nut width (1.687"). If you can order a 9.5" Staytrem (they appear to be shipping internationally now) that would probably the be never to be second guessed, no regrets option.
thanks, I will sure look at it. 50th anniversary seems to have the same width as 62 reissue - 1.65, but I need to check it.
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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 12:35 PM
SandBug wrote:
Samurai wrote:
This is a type of Staytrem that was produced some years ago, they’ve called it «drop-in for TOM» or something like this. You are completely right, these posts will be not rocking so the whole tremolo feel will be different.
I did not say Staytrem will not fit, it sure will. I just cannot buy it anywhere, as you see above they are not available on site, as well as on ebay or reverb. That’s why I check other solutions and this one is right here in Kyiv, so decided to give it a look. Probably not a good way as you say, although my guitar tech says that no drilling or any modifications will be needed.
Thank you, my friend, I understand now, thanks for clarifying.
I would put in a pre-order for your bridge from StayTrem, the sooner you're in the que the better. I'm not sure how long it will take.
Also did you happen to check out the link i posted to the Fender modern bridge type? It's 9.5" radius and narrow string spacing, they are in stock. They are almost the same as Staytrem. Maybe the seller will ship to Russia.
Thanks, man! I guess I will preorder it and see what happens) I will also check American pro bridge, sure.
And I am from Ukraine, not Russia)
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SandBug
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 12:51 PM
Samurai wrote:
And I am from Ukraine, not Russia)
Sorry, my mistake, note taken.
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SandBug
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 01:10 PM
I should also mention that the most recent set of StayTrem bridges i bought have an added improvement to the design to keep the saddles from shifting and rattling, making them superior to Fender's current offerings. The intonation screws for the high and low E are extra long and go into the front plate of the bridge so as to keep all the saddles as snug as possible with no side to side movement. I was pleased to see this new change in design.

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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 24 2021 01:16 PM
SandBug wrote:
I should also mention that the most recent set of StayTrem bridges i bought have an added improvement to the design to keep the saddles from shifting and rattling, making them superior to Fender's current offerings. The intonation screws for the high and low E are extra long and go into the front plate of the bridge so as to keep all the saddles as snug as possible with no side to side movement. I was pleased to see this new change in design.

Looks great!
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Samurai
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Posted on Jan 25 2021 01:12 AM
SandBug wrote:
Surfadelphia wrote:
Actually, if you go to Darren Riley's website, he appears to have the Fender OEM American Pro Jag/Jazzmaster bridges in stock, which are similar to the Staytrem w/ solid Mustang saddles in a set 9.5" radius. The only problem you might encounter with the American Pro bridge is the saddle spacing. The Staytrem has a slightly narrower spacing to properly fit the Jag/Jazmaster fret board width. The American Pro bridge (at least from what I have read) has a slightly wider Mustang string spacing width that probaly works ok with the American Pro Jags/Jazzmasters which have a slightly wider nut width (1.687"). If you can order a 9.5" Staytrem (they appear to be shipping internationally now) that would probably the be never to be second guessed, no regrets option.
According to the specs on DR's site the AM-PRo bridge has a narrow spacing of 2 1/16'' , which is 52.3875mm, so that's essentially the same spacing as the StayTrems. Most Mustang bridges have a spacing of 55mm.
https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-american-pro-jaguar-jazzmaster-bridge-7709942000/
I’ve checked the site and it really says 52 mm. My Jaguar currently has Mustand with 56 mm string spacing and it feels completly ok. Narrower is better?
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cosmonaut
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Posted on Jan 25 2021 01:24 AM
I just ordered three bridges from stay trem on Jan 12 and they shipped friday.
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cosmonaut
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Posted on Jan 25 2021 01:26 AM
Samurai wrote:
SandBug wrote:
Surfadelphia wrote:
Actually, if you go to Darren Riley's website, he appears to have the Fender OEM American Pro Jag/Jazzmaster bridges in stock, which are similar to the Staytrem w/ solid Mustang saddles in a set 9.5" radius. The only problem you might encounter with the American Pro bridge is the saddle spacing. The Staytrem has a slightly narrower spacing to properly fit the Jag/Jazmaster fret board width. The American Pro bridge (at least from what I have read) has a slightly wider Mustang string spacing width that probaly works ok with the American Pro Jags/Jazzmasters which have a slightly wider nut width (1.687"). If you can order a 9.5" Staytrem (they appear to be shipping internationally now) that would probably the be never to be second guessed, no regrets option.
According to the specs on DR's site the AM-PRo bridge has a narrow spacing of 2 1/16'' , which is 52.3875mm, so that's essentially the same spacing as the StayTrems. Most Mustang bridges have a spacing of 55mm.
https://darrenriley.com/store/fender-american-pro-jaguar-jazzmaster-bridge-7709942000/
I’ve checked the site and it really says 52 mm. My Jaguar currently has Mustand with 56 mm string spacing and it feels completly ok. Narrower is better?
I like narrower. 52mm keeps the e strings off the fretboard edges. 55 doesn't bother some people but it's not my favorite.
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