revmike
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Posted on Jul 04 2020 07:25 PM
I’ve been on a Duane Eddy listening jag for the last couple of weeks. Brought out my Baritone guitar, and was having a ball (until hand pain crept in from overplaying...physio for me for a while). Duane’s early tone is so good. Really digging the early albums more so than the later ones. One of the first tunes I learned on guitar was Rebel Rouser...40 years ago. He is still an inspiration.
Rev
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synchro
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jul 04 2020 10:20 PM
He was, in many ways, the inspiration for a lot of the early Surf. He pioneered the use of reverb, not as a general studio effect used to season the sound of everything, but as a signature sound for the guitar alone.
I got to hear him play live and had a chance to speak to him at the Gretsch Booth, the day he signed on to endorse Gretsch guitars. He was such a gentleman. First class, all the way.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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chillybilly
Joined: Jul 12, 2018
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Posted on Jul 05 2020 07:16 AM
Duane often enthuses about the Magnatone amp he used. The brand has been relaunched in the last few years - unfortunately, like so many quasi-boutique amps the MSRP is an eye-watering $3k or more for a 22w combo.
But there's really no substitute for the pitch-shifting vibrato on a Magnatone. I spoke with a friend recently who owns one and he declared it his desert-island amp.
Oddly enough, my introduction to Duane Eddy was not the Jamie years but the Colpix years ie toward the mid-60s and when Duane had his Guild signature model (a beautiful instrument also fetching huge sums on the vintage market). If my count is correct, Duane's had a Guild signature model, a Gibson and now a Gretsch. Usually I would call this excessive and a bit cynical but this is Duane Eddy we're talking about and, by the way, all those instruments are top-drawer. I may have talked myself into robbing a bank and buying all three models.
Anyway, the 'Duane A Go Go Go' LP on Colpix was my Duane Eddy immersion at a young age. I wasn't even aware of Rebel Rouser at the time apart from the Ventures cover of it or his other early hits. It was a 1965 release with Lee Hazlewood still in command and the cream of the LA session cats credited as his usual backing band The Rebels. I was also intrigued by the go-go dancers up on platforms in their fringed outfits but anyway....
The second LP side began with 'Cottonmouth' - an intricate and high-tempo hammer-on part with what I eventually discovered to be a baritone guitar - even twangier than his usual instrument!
I was glad to obtain Duane's catalog on CD with issues and reissues from various labels but the 'Duane A Go Go Go' release was a shocking digital transfer - thin-sounding etc. As one harsh review says on Amazon: 'It's as if they did a digital recording of the LP and then added more reverb.'
The vinyl LP was incredibly warm and present - I'm tempted for that reason alone to get a turntable again - even if I make my own MP3s from the LP!
Surf indeed owes him several nods but what amazes me is how many country players may not be as aware as they should be of Duane's contributions to the modern country guitar lexicon. All those bass runs and bends/releases to an open string (eg Turn It On, Turn It Up, Turn Me Loose by Dwight Yoakam with Pete Anderson on guitar) are signature Duane Eddy. With the pop charts mostly subsumed by hip-hop, the country charts have been invaded by what are essentially rock bands with rock instrumentation. Most of them use the now-standard Mutt Lange/Shania Twain formula - it's more Def Leppard than country but they throw in a fiddle part or a Duane Eddy lick as a fig leaf.
As for me I make it a point to use DE 'vocabulary' in both country and surf playing. First, because it fits...second, because it slows me down, reminds me to give some space between notes and let them breathe.
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CrazyAces
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Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Jul 05 2020 12:16 PM
"Have Twangy Guitar Will Travel" has been and always will be one of my favorite instrumental records.
The overall sound that jumps off my mono copy on vinyl is monumental!
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websurfer
Joined: May 14, 2007
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Posted on Jul 05 2020 12:49 PM
Last time I was in Phoenix I checked out the Musical Instrument Museum and was stoked to see a Duane Eddy exhibit including his old Gretsch, studio recording equipment, and other memorabilia. (No, Duane wasn't there!) If you like surf music, you have to love Duane Eddy!
@chillybilly, yes--his influence is huge. Even international! Check out Jet Harris. And of course it was there from the dawn of surf.
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3802
North Atlantic
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Posted on Jul 05 2020 05:51 PM
CrazyAces wrote:
"Have Twangy Guitar Will Travel" has been and always will be one of my favorite instrumental records.
The overall sound that jumps off my mono copy on vinyl is monumental!
Going to have to look for a copy. I just picked up a Mono copy of Miles Davis’ “Round About Midnight”, and love the sound.
Rev
— Canadian Surf
http://www.urbansurfkings.com/
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ElMonstroPorFavor
Joined: Sep 01, 2006
Posts: 2721
New Orleans, LA
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Posted on Jul 05 2020 06:02 PM
Duane Eddy rules. As Jon Blair pointed out at the SG101 Convention, the guitar in Wipeout is basically "Yep" played fast. He might not have been surf himself, but he was the direct inspiration for many surf artists.
I met him at the Ponderosa Stomp a few years ago. I was volunteering, went out the door and got locked out. I waited for somebody else to come out to let me back in, and that person was Duane Eddy getting a breath of fresh air (or maybe smoking, I can't remember). He was a super nice guy, seemed genuinely interested in talking to me and introduced me to his wife.
— Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4446
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jul 05 2020 10:02 PM
chillybilly wrote:
Duane often enthuses about the Magnatone amp he used. The brand has been relaunched in the last few years - unfortunately, like so many quasi-boutique amps the MSRP is an eye-watering $3k or more for a 22w combo.
But there's really no substitute for the pitch-shifting vibrato on a Magnatone. I spoke with a friend recently who owns one and he declared it his desert-island amp.
Oddly enough, my introduction to Duane Eddy was not the Jamie years but the Colpix years ie toward the mid-60s and when Duane had his Guild signature model (a beautiful instrument also fetching huge sums on the vintage market). If my count is correct, Duane's had a Guild signature model, a Gibson and now a Gretsch. Usually I would call this excessive and a bit cynical but this is Duane Eddy we're talking about and, by the way, all those instruments are top-drawer. I may have talked myself into robbing a bank and buying all three models.
Anyway, the 'Duane A Go Go Go' LP on Colpix was my Duane Eddy immersion at a young age. I wasn't even aware of Rebel Rouser at the time apart from the Ventures cover of it or his other early hits. It was a 1965 release with Lee Hazlewood still in command and the cream of the LA session cats credited as his usual backing band The Rebels. I was also intrigued by the go-go dancers up on platforms in their fringed outfits but anyway....
The second LP side began with 'Cottonmouth' - an intricate and high-tempo hammer-on part with what I eventually discovered to be a baritone guitar - even twangier than his usual instrument!
I was glad to obtain Duane's catalog on CD with issues and reissues from various labels but the 'Duane A Go Go Go' release was a shocking digital transfer - thin-sounding etc. As one harsh review says on Amazon: 'It's as if they did a digital recording of the LP and then added more reverb.'
The vinyl LP was incredibly warm and present - I'm tempted for that reason alone to get a turntable again - even if I make my own MP3s from the LP!
Surf indeed owes him several nods but what amazes me is how many country players may not be as aware as they should be of Duane's contributions to the modern country guitar lexicon. All those bass runs and bends/releases to an open string (eg Turn It On, Turn It Up, Turn Me Loose by Dwight Yoakam with Pete Anderson on guitar) are signature Duane Eddy. With the pop charts mostly subsumed by hip-hop, the country charts have been invaded by what are essentially rock bands with rock instrumentation. Most of them use the now-standard Mutt Lange/Shania Twain formula - it's more Def Leppard than country but they throw in a fiddle part or a Duane Eddy lick as a fig leaf.
As for me I make it a point to use DE 'vocabulary' in both country and surf playing. First, because it fits...second, because it slows me down, reminds me to give some space between notes and let them breathe.
A few years back, when Fender still owned Guild, they made a special run of Guild T-400s, which were essentially the old Guild Duane Eddy model, but without his name on it. I got the last one to leave the Westerly Rhode Island factory, before Fender shut it down. It's an exceptional instrument. It's capable of serious Jazz guitar sounds, bright surf sounds and pretty much everything in between. I had long wanted a Gibson Byrdland, but this instrument takes its place nicely.
Duane Eddy worked in Nashville for many years. He was a part of the community of musicians that gave us much of the Country from the late sixties, on through the seventies. Some of his later solo recordings would lead me to believe that he was up to the task of batting in the same league as Chet Atkins, and this is saying something.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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chillybilly
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Posted on Jul 06 2020 05:52 AM
[I'm probably not the first to say it but this forum software needs a like button]
Didn't know about the Guild model - it makes sense that all the time and effort put into the design wouldn't be wasted as and when the endorsement deal expired.
I've seen various clips of DE doing some impressive Atkins-style fingerpicking.
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synchro
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Posted on Jul 06 2020 08:39 AM
chillybilly wrote:
[I'm probably not the first to say it but this forum software needs a like button]
Didn't know about the Guild model - it makes sense that all the time and effort put into the design wouldn't be wasted as and when the endorsement deal expired.
I've seen various clips of DE doing some impressive Atkins-style fingerpicking.
The DE-400 was somewhat lost to time, but it was a great instrument. I always wanted to check one out, but never even saw one in person. Since about 1966, I’ve had this fleeting fascination with thin archtops, and I have 4 of them, mostly Gretsch, but this one takes the cake. It’s really a unique instrument, with very widely spaced pickups, so you can capture a lot of sonic turf, with one guitar.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Jul 06 2020 08:48 AM
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synchro
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Posted on Jul 06 2020 11:15 AM
Those are some great clips, Rev’.
He has an absolute mastery of that style. Of course, he did invent it. I remember hearing that when I was a child and thinking it was pretty cool. That has changed, because now I listen to it and think that it is the very definition of cool. I don’t think anyone was doing any thing even remotely like that, until he came along.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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JohnnyMosrite
Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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New York City area
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Posted on Jul 08 2020 07:53 AM
I actually wore out the frets on a Harmony archtop playing Duane's music.
It was wasn't in the usually places on the high strings; it was on the lower strings.
Over the years, I came up with a name for Duane's music.. I call it 4 x 4 music.. first four low strings on the guitar over the first 4 frets.
Works for me
J Mo'
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3802
North Atlantic
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Posted on Jul 08 2020 08:53 AM
What I learned from listening to Mr. Eddy
1 Melody
2 Silence
3 Tone
All are key to making great music.
Rev
— Canadian Surf
http://www.urbansurfkings.com/
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jul 08 2020 08:57 AM
revmike wrote:
What I learned from listening to Mr. Eddy
1 Melody
2 Silence
3 Tone
All are key to making great music.
Rev
I’ll drink to that.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Chris_V
Joined: Jul 04, 2021
Posts: 30
Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Posted on Apr 10 2024 01:18 PM
Duane Eddy is the best, and definitely at the root of Surf.
revmike wrote:
I’ve been on a Duane Eddy listening jag for the last couple of weeks. Brought out my Baritone guitar, and was having a ball (until hand pain crept in from overplaying...physio for me for a while). Duane’s early tone is so good. Really digging the early albums more so than the later ones. One of the first tunes I learned on guitar was Rebel Rouser...40 years ago. He is still an inspiration.
Rev
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Posted on Apr 10 2024 04:28 PM
Chris_V wrote:
Duane Eddy is the best, and definitely at the root of Surf.
revmike wrote:
I’ve been on a Duane Eddy listening jag for the last couple of weeks. Brought out my Baritone guitar, and was having a ball (until hand pain crept in from overplaying...physio for me for a while). Duane’s early tone is so good. Really digging the early albums more so than the later ones. One of the first tunes I learned on guitar was Rebel Rouser...40 years ago. He is still an inspiration.
Rev
For certain.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Ric12string
Joined: Jan 29, 2017
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Posted on Apr 23 2024 05:38 PM
Just so that it is clear to readers of this thread in years to come, Duane did not play a baritone guitar on any of those hits. Rather, he played a Danelectro six-string bass guitar. Baritone guitars didn't come along until much later. Also, be sure to check out the modern-day G6120TB-DE DUANE EDDY 6-STRING BASS manufactured by Gretsch. It is a stunning looker of a guitar. And it sounds wonderful.
The Duane Eddy Signature Six String bass Guitar
Also, a tremendous factor in Duane's tone, even to this very day, is that he uses Dynasonic pickups in his guitars. That is a huge component of his tone that has remained despite a stream of amps that he has favored over the years.
— The Sun Rays -- The Sierra's Surf Band
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synchro
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Posted on Apr 24 2024 12:13 PM
Ric12string wrote:
Just so that it is clear to readers of this thread in years to come, Duane did not play a baritone guitar on any of those hits. Rather, he played a Danelectro six-string bass guitar. Baritone guitars didn't come along until much later. Also, be sure to check out the modern-day G6120TB-DE DUANE EDDY 6-STRING BASS manufactured by Gretsch. It is a stunning looker of a guitar. And it sounds wonderful.
The Duane Eddy Signature Six String bass Guitar
Also, a tremendous factor in Duane's tone, even to this very day, is that he uses Dynasonic pickups in his guitars. That is a huge component of his tone that has remained despite a stream of amps that he has favored over the years.
For my purposes, instead of an A-A or B-B baritone, I just use a Fender Bass VI. My thinking is that if I am going to the trouble of having an additional instrument, I’d prefer to gain more than a fourth in the lower range.
The Gretsch Duane Eddy six string bass is a great instrument. It’s an instrument I am tempted by, but I know that I wouldn’t have that much opportunity to actually use it.
Dynasonics are great pickups. It’s interesting that Chet Atkins could never make peace with them and asked Duane what kind of strings he used, trying to figure out why Dynas worked for Duane, but not for Chet. I got to hear Duane Eddy live, playing a Gretsch 6120 Duane Eddy model, and it sounded great.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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TallTenor
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Coast of the Great Lakes
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Posted on Apr 24 2024 07:50 PM
Duane did a water themed album. He’s surf then.
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