SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1400
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Feb 13 2020 11:01 AM
Hi guys, I am back at it again. This time, I did my take on "Pipeline." Like my first song, feedback is definitely welcome. It is still in the early stages, and am happy to make changes and tweaks.
So, I was going for a vintage sound. I ran it through a reel to reel tape player, added some saturation, and some record noise (all VST of course). I can go into further detail if anyone is interested.
If you listen with headphones on, you can really hear all the little nuances. Having said all that, I think I went overboard. Anyway, I hope you enjoy! Constructive criticism is welcome.
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Redfeather
Joined: Jul 30, 2016
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Posted on Feb 13 2020 02:45 PM
Timing. You gotta tighten that waaaaay up. It almost sounds like two different songs playing.
Your sound is nice, though. All your instruments have a real authentic tone. The timing is really shooting the rest of it in the foot. Find your pocket and you'll have a nice little gem.
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Surfing_Sam_61
Joined: Jan 15, 2019
Posts: 1515
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Posted on Feb 13 2020 03:30 PM
That's pretty cool, I like the 2nd guitar thing slapping in the background.
Where are you playing the solo on the B and G string or higher up on the D and G string?
You ought to try Guitar Boogie too, its almost the same song with variations on the same scale. (A lot faster though).
The volume is a little low, I could be deaf though. >>>>  <<<<
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1400
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Feb 13 2020 03:54 PM
Thank you so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it. I am struggling with the timing, as I have recording every instrument separately. It's like I am trying to put a puzzle together.
Sam, thanks man. Yes, the sound is too low. I will try to get the volume higher. As far as the solo, I will have to look at the notes when I have the guitar in front of me. I am terrible at naming notes and chords! 
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Taifighter
Joined: Oct 31, 2018
Posts: 224
Indiana
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Posted on Feb 14 2020 05:08 AM
SixStringSurfer wrote:
I just played my version along side the Chantays version, and the timing seems to be very close.
Are you not able to hear the playback while you're recording?
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ArtS
Joined: May 09, 2008
Posts: 1336
Isle of Kent, MD
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Posted on Feb 14 2020 07:50 AM
Six string,
Haven't heard track yet, but if timing is an issue to suggestions:
1) Try using the backing tracks here at SG101, that way you are playing with a mix of the backing instruments and not competing with the original. There are 84 different tracks available.
Backing tracks are at the bottom of page click here
2) Create a way to put a click track in to help you keep time.
Good luck!
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1400
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Feb 18 2020 10:27 PM
Took everyone's advice from this thread, and also from some musician friends of mine. I solo'd the drip with the kick and snare drum to get the timing right, and also completely re-recorded the lead as it was out of time.
It should be a lot tighter now. Please let me know if it sounds any better to you. Thank you for your feedback and suggestions.
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Singles "Finish Line" and "Paradiso" on Bandcamp and website.
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Surfing_Sam_61
Joined: Jan 15, 2019
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Posted on Feb 18 2020 11:01 PM
Sounds much better
Just a note:
The original Chantay's version has a guitar#1 playing along to the bass line fairly big in the mix with a muted palm technique on the pick hand. Guitar #2 has the lead played straight on a fairly clean sounding amp with a lower volume, but nobody plays it that way live that I've found so far tough. Its just one of those songs the sound good no matter what the arrangement.
I just saw a picture of the guitar used on the Pipeline single, it was a TV yellow Silver-tone type or style guitar with a black pickguard (looks like a Les Paul Junior) type body shape. I can't remember where just I saw it though. I didn't recognize the brand.
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simoncoil
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
Posts: 914
Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Feb 19 2020 03:51 AM
The guitars used in the original recording of Pipeline were a Barth and a Harmony. The photo and the additional info can be found in this thread:
https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/20745/
BTW the recording sounds very nice and has a nice drip to it!
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ArtS
Joined: May 09, 2008
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Isle of Kent, MD
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Posted on Feb 19 2020 07:30 AM
Six String, sounds like it's coming along. Keep working on your timing. If possible, get with some live players; that's what helped me tighten up and lock in my playing. Pipeline is deceptively more nuanced than most players realize that's why most of the cover versions I hear live fall short. They lose the feel and timing. Good effort and keep going forward!
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1400
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Feb 20 2020 04:45 PM
Thanks Sam, glad you think it sounds better! Simon, thanks for directing me to that thread, very informative... Art, each project I do, I get a little better. Appreciate the positive vibes!
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Singles "Finish Line" and "Paradiso" on Bandcamp and website.
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Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1487
Redlands, CA
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Posted on Mar 28 2020 03:31 PM
Keep on going.
Do a few more cover songs and after a few months come back to them one at a time, and give your recordings a listen. Listen to them on the net.
Change what you do think needs to be changed then.
Everything sound wise is fresh in your head right now at this time.and you think it sounds fine. Or else you wouldn't have posted it. Not that it doesn't, but You will be surprised at what you will hear.
Joel
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1400
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Mar 28 2020 03:54 PM
Thanks Joel, always love your feedback. By the way, I saw your rig in the other thread. Very simple and solid, love it!
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Singles "Finish Line" and "Paradiso" on Bandcamp and website.
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Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1487
Redlands, CA
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Posted on Mar 28 2020 04:03 PM
SixStringSurfer wrote:
Thanks Joel, always love your feedback. By the way, I saw your rig in the other thread. Very simple and solid, love it!
Yeah I'm down to bare minimum now. I used to have a dedicated music room. Drums,, Keyboard, wall full of guitars, and amps. Recording units etc.
Then the Doctors told me I was dying. So I sold and gave away just about everything. Dave W. who lives in my town bought an twin- reverb amp and mic.
However, it looks like the doctors were wrong,I'm still here many years later. So, I took a new tack, and set up a computer to record with and hook everything into the computer. I still have a small blackstar amp, but that's it.
Joel
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1400
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Mar 28 2020 06:44 PM
Joel, I am so glad the doctors were wrong. I am glad you are alive and well. I always enjoy interacting with you on this forum!
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale. New Singles "Finish Line" and "Paradiso" on Bandcamp and website.
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