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CaptainSensible Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 650 Leesburg, VA	Posted on Oct 07 2019 10:27 AM These Tone Master versions of classic Fender blackface amps look pretty legit. I've yet to play one, but John Bohlinger's video below sounds pretty darn good. Hoping a local store has one of these to try out soon. — Sean Last edited: Oct 07, 2019 10:27:57 Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Oct 07 2019 12:26 PM It does sound very good. Seems especially useful for the gigging musician (lightweight, low maintenance, loud, IR with line etc.) The FX sound great also. Top of the line as far as digital emulations go. The reverb seems to kick in a little late, but it's hard to judge. Caveats: 1. as with all digital modeling until now, the way it sounds to the listener doesn't necessarily translate to the way it interacts with the player in real time. Even with minimal latency, the liveliness and dynamics of tubes are a hard thing to replicate. Getting there, though. 2. It will likely be obsolete in a couple of years, when a newer better digital solution will come, as has been before with previous digital lines. It always does. Even with firmware updates there's a limit to the chips, as opposed to tube amps which still maintain value. 3. No headphone output? I like that they kept the 'programming' part to a minimum this time( no stupid menus), control is done by classic knobs. Last edited: Oct 07, 2019 12:52:33 Top
LordWellfleet Joined: Jul 12, 2012 Posts: 171 Cape Cod, USA	Posted on Oct 07 2019 01:56 PM It's almost the same price as the tube model. — Everybody up! https://www.facebook.com/TheHydronauts https://thehydronauts.bandcamp.com/album/interstellar-clambake Top
Wombat Joined: Oct 13, 2011 Posts: 251 Byron Bay, Australia	Posted on Oct 07 2019 03:51 PM Did you notice that most of these demo video's of Reverb pedals the guitarist is always picking? Not using a pick. Different sound when using a pick. — 'Surf Music Lasts Forever' Top
edwardsand Joined: Jun 29, 2018 Posts: 801	Posted on Oct 07 2019 10:49 PM It sounds beautiful in the video. If priced like the tube versions, it's going to be a tough sell - maybe at half or 2/3 the price they could get people to buy in. Top
CaptainSensible Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 650 Leesburg, VA	Posted on Oct 07 2019 11:35 PM edwardsand wrote: It sounds beautiful in the video. If priced like the tube versions, it's going to be a tough sell - maybe at half or 2/3 the price they could get people to buy in. The Tone Master Twin is $450 cheaper than its tube counterpart. So roughly a third cheaper. But it’s got extra bennies that the tube amp doesn’t, like built-in attenuation and an XLR line out. — Sean Top
edwardsand Joined: Jun 29, 2018 Posts: 801	Posted on Oct 08 2019 10:07 AM I hadn't seen all the other added features before posting, as I had watched about half the video to hear how it sounded. Those additional things do add a lot of value, especially the attenuation. Plus it's dual voltage. So I'll have to change my assessment and say it's more reasonably priced (though the Deluxe Reverb version is only $200 cheaper at Sweetwater) and that maybe more guitarists will give it a try. Top
LordWellfleet Joined: Jul 12, 2012 Posts: 171 Cape Cod, USA	Posted on Oct 08 2019 12:27 PM FWIW, I based my comment on the Fender online shop listings. They list a '68 Custom Deluxe at $1049; they list the Tone Master Deluxe at $899. So, yeah, the TM's a $150 less, but for my money those prices are too close for modeling amp vs. tube amp. — Everybody up! https://www.facebook.com/TheHydronauts https://thehydronauts.bandcamp.com/album/interstellar-clambake Last edited: Oct 08, 2019 13:00:50 Top
Bango_Rilla Joined: Jan 06, 2019 Posts: 181 Bananas, TX	Posted on Oct 13 2019 08:08 PM I gigged with my Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb this weekend (twice). It was pretty dang cool. Lightweight as all get out, the tone was great (Fred Rilla said, "Your tone is always so great....wait, is that the NEW amp?") I miss some of the harmonic richness of my PRRI and DRRI but nobody but me notices it. The XLR confused sound guy #1 who ended up just mic'ing it anyway (I'm not going to argue with a sound guy) and sound guy #2 had no problem plugging direct in. I used the Cab Sim #2 (SM57) and it sounded good. More experimenting required here. Ultimately, I've got to tweak the treble and bass some more, because the frequency response is so even across the range it's changed how my pedals and overall sound are working. (Not a bad thing) Bottom line, it's equivalent to my tube amps, in a different way. In the studio I would probably still go with my tube amps (more harmonic richness) but this thing rocks bananas when gigging! — Bango Rilla! DiPintos, Fenders and Reverb (oh, my!) The GO-GO Rillas Bandcamp \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube \| TikTok \| Threads: thegogorillas \| Spotify Last edited: Oct 13, 2019 20:09:13 Top
maximumsurfandroll Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 182 Edinburgh, Scotland	Posted on Jan 29 2020 12:00 PM Is this Tone Master Deluxe Reverb fine for playing live? I was all set to shop around for one but then realised that the Twin Reverb version isn't much more money (about 130 GBP), so with that you'd have enough headroom you'd ever need, and could step down the power of required Top
Bango_Rilla Joined: Jan 06, 2019 Posts: 181 Bananas, TX	Posted on Jan 30 2020 10:41 AM Yeah, for sure, I've gigged with it a bunch now. A Twin is far more volume than I would ever need (even with the step down available) but the case is good to go for the Twin and have even MORE volume available for not much more cash. In most situations I have the sound guy run direct XLR and so really all I need is stage volume, which the DR handles just fine. — Bango Rilla! DiPintos, Fenders and Reverb (oh, my!) The GO-GO Rillas Bandcamp \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube \| TikTok \| Threads: thegogorillas \| Spotify Top
Bango_Rilla Joined: Jan 06, 2019 Posts: 181 Bananas, TX	Posted on Jan 30 2020 10:54 AM to be fair, I have also played it plenty of times where we didn't have a sound guy/PA and it was fine. If I was playing a Twin, I'd have to turn waydown, as it is my other guitar player is playing a Princeton Reverb so more often than not I notch my DR down to 12w so that I'm not blowing him out. — Bango Rilla! DiPintos, Fenders and Reverb (oh, my!) The GO-GO Rillas Bandcamp \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube \| TikTok \| Threads: thegogorillas \| Spotify Top
Agent71857 Joined: Apr 15, 2014 Posts: 164 Pittsburgh, Pa	Posted on Jan 31 2020 04:46 PM I got one, and I’m sold! I’ve never been very traditional in my gear choices (I like new stuff that works) so there was no glitch there. I’ve always been a believer that our gear is really for our benefit as performers. When you feel like you sound good, you’ll most certainly play better. From an audience perspective though I don’t really think that they care if your setup is “vintage correct.” Yes... there are obvious aesthetic connections between genres of music and instrument selection. And I think we are drawn to this music because of the whole package! The sound, the look, and the connection to the lifestyle it represents. Sorry if I got a little off track... the gear minutiae gets to me sometimes. So... I’ll get to the point! This amp is Awesome!!! Punchy. Loud and clear. I’ve never had it above the 12 watt setting and I’ve never had a problem being heard over our drummer. And trust me Gary is like a force of nature! Here’s the big thing... It’s an inspiration to play.! It makes me want to play more and better. And that my friends is the bottom line. — www.instagram.com/_the.outer.limits_ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX7iIpcAvL8In2HY9I7QoPw www.theouterlimits.bandcamp.com www.facebook.com/vertigogo.surf Top
Alathea_Squared Joined: Aug 11, 2019 Posts: 7	Posted on Jul 28 2020 04:08 PM I just got one of these, and while I've never played a full on tube Fender other than BJ, I've had a few X2s through the years, and this one sounds a lot better. As far as DSP goes, they soundmodeled a Deluxe reverb and then figured out how much processing power it would take to make it do that, rather than the other way around that a lot of modeling amps go, with a limit to DSP and then the sound models tweaked to fit within those parameters. I don't see this TMDR becoming obsolete in the coming years like a lot of modelers because it doesn't carry any onboard effects, pedals, setting, whatever, other than reverb and trem. A DR is a DR- they arnen't going to sound much different now or 20 yrs from now other than some tube swapping and speaker changes or something like that. I think Fender took the right route here. Top

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