I miss Phil Dirt being on KFJC... does anyone have of his show recordings from back in the day to share? 
Last edited: May 12, 2018 12:08:52
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Joined: Jun 02, 2007 Posts: 9 San Jose 
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Posted on May 05 2018 10:30 PM
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5126 San Francisco
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Posted on May 06 2018 12:22 PM
Funny, I just saw an ad for a cassette player, like a walkman, with a USB out, and this was the first thing I thought about doing if I had one- converting Dirt's old shows. I have about 25. Would put them on SoundCloud. —Buy Endless Drummer @ Bandcamp |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2065 Virginia, USA
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Posted on May 06 2018 12:31 PM
I have an mp3 of Phil's last show. Paul |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19351 Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on May 06 2018 07:50 PM
I'd be hesitant to host that file here just because it's so big and not sure about KFJC's copyright, etc. —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
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Joined: Jun 02, 2007 Posts: 9 San Jose
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Posted on May 06 2018 10:56 PM
Skeeter, thanks... I'll check Downloads soon |
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Joined: Jun 02, 2007 Posts: 9 San Jose
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Posted on May 06 2018 11:02 PM
Ferenc, that would be so awesome if you ever do transfer them... and Brian, if they're recordings off-air and not sold anywhere, I'd think it's fair game. We're not profiting, we're sharing. |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2065 Virginia, USA
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Posted on May 07 2018 07:19 AM
It's up to you. But I would think it would be ok, since KFJC archives their own shows anyway? I'm pretty sure I downloaded it from their site. Brian wrote: — Paul |
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Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19351 Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on May 07 2018 08:50 AM
sdubose wrote:
Yeah but we have no right to distribute their material without permission. If you ask them and get back to me I'll consider it. Edit: Paging Cousin Mary...? —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Last edited: May 07, 2018 08:51:41 |
Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2754 New Orleans, LA
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Posted on May 07 2018 09:57 AM
skeeter wrote:
It looks like KFJC archives the past two weeks, which is in compliance with the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (other features of their archives aren't, but most stations pick and choose anyway because the law is outdated). I've read through that part of the DMCA a bunch because I've been trying to implement the same feature for our station. I really don't think it's legal. Radio stations pay royalties on the songs they play and I don't think those royalties would be covered in the same way if those songs could be listened to on-demand. That said, I think there's basically zero actual risk. Mixcloud exists and people repost their air-broadcasted radio shows there all the time. At the very worst I think you're looking at a cease and decist, but even that seems pretty unlikely given the copyright holders. —Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio Last edited: May 07, 2018 10:00:39 |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5126 San Francisco
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Posted on May 07 2018 12:01 PM
I'll ask Dirt how he feels about it. And, I know he has a tape of every show he ever did Hunter, thanks for your input on this. —Buy Endless Drummer @ Bandcamp |
Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY
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Posted on May 07 2018 02:13 PM
Legal issues aside, god it would make me so happy to see an archive of Phil Dirt's shows come to light. I discovered surf in high school through Phil's program, which I adored. Tuning in every Saturday was a seriously formative experience. I still have a few cassettes of my own, and it gives me goosebumps whenever I occasionally dust them off and listen. Talk about nostalgia! To see a repository of those shows (including live Pit performances?) would be such a gift. I hope it could happen somehow with Phil's and KFJC's blessing. |
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Joined: Jun 02, 2007 Posts: 9 San Jose
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Posted on May 10 2018 04:20 PM
Response from Phil Dirt... which I interpret as "go for it!" |
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Joined: Jun 02, 2007 Posts: 9 San Jose
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Posted on May 10 2018 04:33 PM
PolloGuitar wrote:
Ferenc, could you put them on archive.org? |
Joined: Nov 16, 2009 Posts: 1077 San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted on May 10 2018 05:28 PM
Asking about this at KFJC. Will get back to you. Cousin Mary |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2009 Posts: 1077 San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted on May 11 2018 11:13 AM
Talked to the appropriate expert at KFJC. Here is what he wrote. "If someone else has recordings of Phil Dirt's shows and puts them somewhere that we have no control over, then we're not liable." We, in this case, means KFJC. So if you have recordings of old shows and place them somewhere like archive.org, you would be liable if one of the artists on the records that were part of the show got annoyed. It's up to you if you think that is unlikely. Of course, you should ask Phil Dirt's permission. KFJC is generally happy to let listeners help to get the word out about what we do, but we appreciate the courtesy of crediting the DJ and the station if you use any of our stuff - such as posting a video from the KFJC Surf Battle on YouTube. Hope that this helps! Coz |
Joined: Mar 19, 2006 Posts: 983 Oxford, Ohio
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Posted on May 12 2018 08:43 PM
I have most for April 2004 through October 2005 in my iTunes. Some of it would drop out because of a lousy network connection. If we find a home for them it would be great. How about TheArchive.org? |
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Joined: Jun 02, 2007 Posts: 9 San Jose
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Posted on May 13 2018 11:38 AM
Yes please! |
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