PhantomOperators
Joined: Feb 17, 2015
Posts: 113
Knoxville, Tennessee
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Posted on Jan 27 2018 12:37 PM
@surfridern, the Tonestudio is the software that works with the katana 50 to change and adjust the onboard effects. BTW, someone mentioned the behringer reverb pedal, I had one and liked it. I wouldn’t trust it for a gig since it is made of plastic, but for home playing it is pretty good bamg for the buck. Also check out the biyang tri-verb. It’s about the best of the chinese pedals.
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surfridern
Joined: Jan 17, 2018
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Posted on Jan 27 2018 01:28 PM
@Surf_Skater 100 watt sounds like a big concert amplifier to me 
But I am a beginner, I know lot more about electronics then how to play guitar. I can not read music except to read tabs and I use tuxguitar on a Linux machine that can play guitar pro tabs. So I am looking for surf music guitar tabs made with guitar pro. Maybe I should have start a new topic for this.
@james14000 Spring reverb is the right way to go I think 
@Samurai Thanks for your input, but I have looked more to the surfy bear reverb now.
The surfy bear reverb, I saw the topic with nearly 100 pages of forum text. I can not read all that. But the surfy bear is made only one hour of driving from my home. Is the surfy bear reverb like a spring reverb? What is the difference between surfy bear and a boss rv-6 or any other reverb pedal that is discussed in this thread? It looked quite simple to build too so that is nice.
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Surf_Skater
Joined: Sep 06, 2012
Posts: 1300
Lawrenceville , GA
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Posted on Jan 27 2018 03:35 PM
What we all think of as the classic reverb sound comes from the Fender stand alone reverb unit. Used reissues start at about $450.
The Surfy Bear is basically the same circuit using Jfets instead of vacuum tubes with a real spring tank.
There are a few pedals that come close, but most that do cost a little more than building a basic Surfy Bear kit.
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jan 27 2018 07:07 PM
Dear O.P.:
If you live near Bjørn you owe his genius to buy his device! Shipping will even be negligible and its sound (with a reverb pan of choice) will never disappoint.
My advice to you as a musician - I’ve been learning to play guitar for 38 years now - is to LEARN BY EAR. Forget tabs of other people’s transcriptions: your own ingenuity is required to produce your own solution to the problem of interpreting existing music. This process involves approximating the original and judging your results. There is no shortcut to learning to play the guitar.
The method of learning by ear involves all your music-making faculties and teaches THE NATURAL WAY how to play music. It happens in the ear-brain-hand connection and there is no substitute.
Of course a grasp of music theory will probably help you but most classic surf has little of that going on - it’s an intuitive art not obsessed by self-conscious abstraction. But all music is math and teaching oneself to play an instrument engages, on an intuitive level, deep mathematical skills, as does dance and visual art. But the human ear may be the most powerful organ of direct apprehension of mathematics.
Trust your ear. It’s way more intelligent than any software or device.
— Squink Out!
Last edited: Jan 27, 2018 19:07:40
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WoodyJ
Joined: Apr 05, 2006
Posts: 1548
Bethlehem, GA
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Posted on Jan 27 2018 07:25 PM
JObeast wrote:
Dear O.P.:
If you live near Bjørn you owe his genius to buy his device! Shipping will even be negligible and its sound (with a reverb pan of choice) will never disappoint.
My advice to you as a musician - I’ve been learning to play guitar for 38 years now - is to LEARN BY EAR. Forget tabs of other people’s transcriptions: your own ingenuity is required to produce your own solution to the problem of interpreting existing music. This process involves approximating the original and judging your results. There is no shortcut to learning to play the guitar.
The method of learning by ear involves all your music-making faculties and teaches THE NATURAL WAY how to play music. It happens in the ear-brain-hand connection and there is no substitute.
Of course a grasp of music theory will probably help you but most classic surf has little of that going on - it’s an intuitive art not obsessed by self-conscious abstraction. But all music is math and teaching oneself to play an instrument engages, on an intuitive level, deep mathematical skills, as does dance and visual art. But the human ear may be the most powerful organ of direct apprehension of mathematics.
Trust your ear. It’s way more intelligent than any software or device.
+1000
One of the best posts I've ever seen on SG101. Kudos, JO
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(aka WoodyJ)
The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005), 2025
The Hula Hounds (1996-2000)
The X-Rays (1997-2004)
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Various non-surf bands that actually made money (1978-1990)
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
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Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jan 27 2018 07:30 PM
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surfridern
Joined: Jan 17, 2018
Posts: 24
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Posted on Jan 28 2018 03:26 AM
Thanks for all the input here. It will be a surfy bear reverb unit. It will be the best choice for me.
JObeast that was a good post! But I think I also need to read how to play as a start. I have just found some tabs and backing tracks at Martin Cilias website 
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Richard
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 1683
Georgia
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Posted on Jan 28 2018 09:15 AM
Tabs are like training wheels. They're a way to get started that get you up and running, but I recommend taking them off as soon as possible. You'll just have to keep tipping over until that magical moment when you find your balance and start to ride. I hate floundering around with things and putting forth effort without an immediate discernible result, but I had to get over that. I wish I'd done so sooner because if I had I'd be a better player now.
— The Mystery Men?
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Jan 28 2018 10:03 AM
Jimi Hendrix interview: “Is it true,” he is asked, “that you play guitar with your tongue?” “No,” Jimi replies, “I play the guitar with my ear.
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surfridern
Joined: Jan 17, 2018
Posts: 24
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Posted on Jan 28 2018 02:41 PM
Richard - My problem is to know what I should do next. I hear the music but I do not know how to move my hands. Should I only listen to the music and try playing and try all over again to it sounds the same? Some riffs are difficult to take and I feel that I need to read how to put my hands. Its not that easy for me.
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surfridern
Joined: Jan 17, 2018
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Posted on Jan 28 2018 02:45 PM
Btw I ordered the surfy bear diy kit with reverb tank and a sticker. It was no SMD soldering and looked very easy to build I hope the jfets sounds nice as a ecc82 or ef86 tubes.
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Surfadelphia
Joined: Sep 04, 2017
Posts: 437
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Posted on Jan 28 2018 02:54 PM
surfridern wrote:
Btw I ordered the surfy bear diy kit with reverb tank and a sticker. It was no SMD soldering and looked very easy to build I hope the jfets sounds nice as a ecc82 or ef86 tubes.
If you can build tube amps, then the Surfy Bear kit should be no problem for you. What are you going to do for a cab/enclosure?
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Samurai
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2294
Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Jan 28 2018 02:54 PM
surfridern wrote:
Btw I ordered the surfy bear diy kit with reverb tank and a sticker. It was no SMD soldering and looked very easy to build I hope the jfets sounds nice as a ecc82 or ef86 tubes.
Guess it’s a nice choice) however you asked for a cheap reverb)
Nevertheless sure you’ve made a good decision, may be I’ll do the same sometime but I am so happy with my Flint and not ready for more reverb expenses right now.
— Waikiki Makaki surf-rock band from Ukraine
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Jan 29 2018 01:59 AM
surfridern wrote:
Richard - My problem is to know what I should do next. I hear the music but I do not know how to move my hands. Should I only listen to the music and try playing and try all over again to it sounds the same? Some riffs are difficult to take and I feel that I need to read how to put my hands. Its not that easy for me.
I don’t practice scales anymore because I fall asleep doing rote learning but it really helps to have worked out the shapes of scales in many positions on the neck, the C, A, G, E & D chord shapes in Major and minor
up and down the neck, arpeggios of chords in their many shapes. It takes time and there are many pitfalls (learning wrong). Eventually if you have some affinity for the guitar, muscle memory and ear training will mesh into a personal style, your unique approach to the guitar.
Songwriting often teaches ways to stretch ones technique, at least as much as learning to play existing music.
Watching an expert play will save a lot of time - even better finding a good teacher. Music is collaborative play so finding a partner to Challenge and stimulate your progress will lead to quicker breakthroughs.
— Squink Out!
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ludobag
Joined: Jun 05, 2010
Posts: 620
at south of
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Posted on Jan 29 2018 06:24 AM
to resume
tab ok for songs very complicated to your level (i think of solo part very speed or you need to learn the fingering to play it as fast as the original
it will help you to feel the way the artist play it (carefull lot of tab are wrong ,in tonality first but also in rythm ect...)
ears are good for your personnal goal to be a musicplayer ,cause at first you will play all you want and not the restricted catalogue of available songs
the more you re pratice by ear the more you recognise the intervall ,scale,tonality ,rythm and the next advantage is you can play what you heard in your head ,you connect the finger to the brain and it is the best thing to do (you re not become a reader but an actor of what you play )when you are playing in band you can tell the other member what you play ,no need to made tabs for all ,since a long time i play only by ear cause at first for what i want to play there is no tab available and now i like to search a song very much ,it is longer than taking a tab and working on it ,but what i am searching by ear i remember well ,rather than tab
also when i have totally find the song i tab it for me for memory cause if i don't play this song for long it will forget it
use you ear often as you can ,when listening radio for exemple sing the melody you find cool and after search it on the neck (sometimes the easyer to sing are the harder to play )
in music there is only 12 notes then you can be wrong 11 times only when you search it ,with times you catch the note the first time ,you listen a note and your finger go automatic to the good one ,the feel of the song tell you minor major or seven chord is used ,long times i try to understand of what is playing by the artist but it didn't work for me ,now i trust my ears only
it is a try to find each times but i find the song i can't play are more i don't really hear what is playing rather than technical things in fact ,then i listen again and again and one day it become easy cause i ear the the melody in clearly
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james14000
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Posted on Jan 30 2018 01:12 PM
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surfridern
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Posted on Feb 27 2018 01:30 PM
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