NGD: look at all the sparkles

zunrj5

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Posted on Nov 19 2017 09:07 AM

Thanks again for all the comments guys! To answer the questions above:

-the price was $365 shipped
-turn-around time was about two weeks (I can't remember the exact amount of time, but it was quicker than I thought it would be)
-yes the original finish was stripped before the new one was applied

Here's another pic. Sorry couldn't resist.

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Badger

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Posted on Nov 19 2017 09:28 AM

zunrj5 wrote:

Thanks again for all the comments guys! To answer the questions above:

Thanks very much for answering those; I know not everyone likes to but good work costs money. Glad to hear that it took at least 2 weeks; I'd be concerned if less. Have been mulling getting my AV65 Strat refin'd because the (wonderful sounding) guitar was clearly never allowed to cure between coats, so chips when looking at it cross-eyed. That's gorgeous work & thanks for the extra pic with somewhat different light.

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kubiakl

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Posted on Nov 20 2017 10:28 AM

Man that thing is beautiful. Thanks for sharing it!

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IvanP

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Posted on Nov 20 2017 10:45 AM

Badger wrote:

Have been mulling getting my AV65 Strat refin'd because the (wonderful sounding) guitar was clearly never allowed to cure between coats, so chips when looking at it cross-eyed.

Wes, I really don't think that's the case, that it's some sort of an error in workmanship. Those '65 reissues have VERY thin lacquer coats, and the nature of that particular beast is that it'll chip very easily. Fender for a long time went with thicker (usually poly) coats, and the guitarists bitched about how they don't 'breathe', don't resonate as well, don't age as well, etc. So, Fender gave people what they wanted - but as the old saw goes, be careful what you wish for! (Not to say that YOU wished for that, just to clarify...)

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Badger

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Posted on Nov 20 2017 11:34 AM

IvanP wrote:

Wes, I really don't think that's the case, that it's some sort of an error in workmanship. Those '65 reissues have VERY thin lacquer coats, and the nature of that particular beast is that it'll chip very easily. Fender for a long time went with thicker (usually poly) coats, and the guitarists bitched about how they don't 'breathe', don't resonate as well, don't age as well, etc. So, Fender gave people what they wanted - but as the old saw goes, be careful what you wish for! (Not to say that YOU wished for that, just to clarify...)

My guitar tech & I might have to just agree to disagree with you. (He's run across several, notwithstanding the tradtional thin lacquer.) When you back the tension off a neck plate screw for the first time (1/4 turn) and chips fly out from under the plate, or you can completely unbolt the neck & still hold the guitar out at arm's distance by the peghead, not because it's a tight fit but because it's effectively "stuck", then something got missed.

That said, I still will not part with this guitar because of how it sounds and, even acoustically, it is full-throated (which is why I refused Fender's offer of a substitute body). So I've got the potential colors narrowed down to maybe 3, 1 of which is the original Olympic White. Or was, 3 - till I saw this sparkle.

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Wes
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Ariel

Joined: Aug 29, 2009
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Israel

Posted on Nov 20 2017 12:06 PM

My gold Thin-Skin '62 Jazzmaster is chipping rather beautifully at all kind of spots, and there's a big orange-skin area where my sweaty palm rests. My AVRI '65 Jaguar's neck joint point chipped the 1st time I took it off. Inside was clean though (no need to shim anyway, it's angled to begin with!).
Both are very thin skinned, some wood grain is visible even, very beautiful, very lively, but maybe something could've been done a little better still.

Fender resurrected part of the painting/coating process for some lines, that's established. Evidently the materials themselves, which are also a bit different, but there's no record of the drying process being purely old-fashioned, or there is?

Sparkles.

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Badger

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Posted on Nov 20 2017 12:31 PM

Ariel wrote:

Sparkles.

Yes, I did not intend this to deteriorate into a thread about lacquer processing, and apologize to all. Zunrj5's sparkly one is just striking to look at - literally eye candy to celebrate.

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Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

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Pihabeach82

Joined: Sep 29, 2015
Posts: 479

Posted on Nov 20 2017 12:51 PM

My oh my that's a great looking strat !!!
Love the bound neck too
What's the neck profile ? Mij have a habit of using a very squashed C .
Congrats !

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zunrj5

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Posted on Nov 22 2017 04:39 PM

Pihabeach82 wrote:

My oh my that's a great looking strat !!!
Love the bound neck too
What's the neck profile ? Mij have a habit of using a very squashed C .
Congrats !

Thank you!

I don't know what the original specs are supposed to be but it does seem fairly close to my MIM 60s classic series but a touch shallower. Disclaimer: I'm not great at discerning profiles, it's more of I just like it or not. LOL.

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-John

The Seatopians 2017-
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zunrj5 Joined: Jul 16, 2015 Posts: 259 ID	Posted on Nov 19 2017 09:07 AM Thanks again for all the comments guys! To answer the questions above: -the price was $365 shipped -turn-around time was about two weeks (I can't remember the exact amount of time, but it was quicker than I thought it would be) -yes the original finish was stripped before the new one was applied Here's another pic. Sorry couldn't resist. — -John The Seatopians 2017- The Seatopians on bandcamp Last edited: Nov 19, 2017 10:51:34 Top
Badger Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin	Posted on Nov 19 2017 09:28 AM zunrj5 wrote: Thanks again for all the comments guys! To answer the questions above: Thanks very much for answering those; I know not everyone likes to but good work costs money. Glad to hear that it took at least 2 weeks; I'd be concerned if less. Have been mulling getting my AV65 Strat refin'd because the (wonderful sounding) guitar was clearly never allowed to cure between coats, so chips when looking at it cross-eyed. That's gorgeous work & thanks for the extra pic with somewhat different light. — Wes SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Top
kubiakl Joined: Oct 11, 2017 Posts: 13 Austin, TX	Posted on Nov 20 2017 10:28 AM Man that thing is beautiful. Thanks for sharing it! Top
IvanP Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan	Posted on Nov 20 2017 10:45 AM Badger wrote: Have been mulling getting my AV65 Strat refin'd because the (wonderful sounding) guitar was clearly never allowed to cure between coats, so chips when looking at it cross-eyed. Wes, I really don't think that's the case, that it's some sort of an error in workmanship. Those '65 reissues have VERY thin lacquer coats, and the nature of that particular beast is that it'll chip very easily. Fender for a long time went with thicker (usually poly) coats, and the guitarists bitched about how they don't 'breathe', don't resonate as well, don't age as well, etc. So, Fender gave people what they wanted - but as the old saw goes, be careful what you wish for! (Not to say that YOU wished for that, just to clarify...) — Ivan Lords of Atlantis on Facebook The Madeira Official Website The Madeira on Facebook The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook The Space Cossacks on Facebook The Madeira Channel on YouTube Top
Badger Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin	Posted on Nov 20 2017 11:34 AM IvanP wrote: Wes, I really don't think that's the case, that it's some sort of an error in workmanship. Those '65 reissues have VERY thin lacquer coats, and the nature of that particular beast is that it'll chip very easily. Fender for a long time went with thicker (usually poly) coats, and the guitarists bitched about how they don't 'breathe', don't resonate as well, don't age as well, etc. So, Fender gave people what they wanted - but as the old saw goes, be careful what you wish for! (Not to say that YOU wished for that, just to clarify...) My guitar tech & I might have to just agree to disagree with you. (He's run across several, notwithstanding the tradtional thin lacquer.) When you back the tension off a neck plate screw for the first time (1/4 turn) and chips fly out from under the plate, or you can completely unbolt the neck & still hold the guitar out at arm's distance by the peghead, not because it's a tight fit but because it's effectively "stuck", then something got missed. That said, I still will not part with this guitar because of how it sounds and, even acoustically, it is full-throated (which is why I refused Fender's offer of a substitute body). So I've got the potential colors narrowed down to maybe 3, 1 of which is the original Olympic White. Or was, 3 - till I saw this sparkle. — Wes SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Nov 20 2017 12:06 PM My gold Thin-Skin '62 Jazzmaster is chipping rather beautifully at all kind of spots, and there's a big orange-skin area where my sweaty palm rests. My AVRI '65 Jaguar's neck joint point chipped the 1st time I took it off. Inside was clean though (no need to shim anyway, it's angled to begin with!). Both are very thin skinned, some wood grain is visible even, very beautiful, very lively, but maybe something could've been done a little better still. Fender resurrected part of the painting/coating process for some lines, that's established. Evidently the materials themselves, which are also a bit different, but there's no record of the drying process being purely old-fashioned, or there is? Sparkles. Last edited: Nov 20, 2017 12:27:36 Top
Badger Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin	Posted on Nov 20 2017 12:31 PM Ariel wrote: Sparkles. Yes, I did not intend this to deteriorate into a thread about lacquer processing, and apologize to all. Zunrj5's sparkly one is just striking to look at - literally eye candy to celebrate. — Wes SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Top
Pihabeach82 Joined: Sep 29, 2015 Posts: 479	Posted on Nov 20 2017 12:51 PM My oh my that's a great looking strat !!! Love the bound neck too What's the neck profile ? Mij have a habit of using a very squashed C . Congrats ! Top
zunrj5 Joined: Jul 16, 2015 Posts: 259 ID	Posted on Nov 22 2017 04:39 PM Pihabeach82 wrote: My oh my that's a great looking strat !!! Love the bound neck too What's the neck profile ? Mij have a habit of using a very squashed C . Congrats ! Thank you! I don't know what the original specs are supposed to be but it does seem fairly close to my MIM 60s classic series but a touch shallower. Disclaimer: I'm not great at discerning profiles, it's more of I just like it or not. LOL. — -John The Seatopians 2017- The Seatopians on bandcamp Top

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