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Check out "the Vanduras"

Almost forgot these guys:

Paul
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This discussion is motivating me to add spaghetti to a western song I am recording. So, what is the essence of spaghetti western music, what is the defining characteristic?

Generally, I think it is sounding like Morricone, that is, lonely, isolated, individualistic, threatened and threatening, violent, antisocial, and thinking of death. Specifically this may mean adding guttural non-word vocal, whistling, bells or chimes, a tin whistle or piccolo or a thin-sounding harmonica, among other things. The guitar tones are electric twangy and echoey, not overdriven or distorted except perhaps briefly. There may be brass horns, but not reedy woodwinds. There may be organs or harpsichords, but not pianos.

Well, that's my view. What's yours?

Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com

Perhaps a galloping feel to it?

gatorfiend wrote:

Perhaps a galloping feel to it?

The Spotnicks established what galloping guitars means.
https://youtu.be/7Q6vv76PDyQ

I view spaghetti western music as usually lumbering and sometimes trotting, but not faster than that.

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To me, Spaghetti Western includes a Baritone guitar and Tremolo somewhere in the mix.

If you have a Danelectro, time to trot it out. Maybe even a little Pedal or Lap steel.

But that's just me.

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Squid wrote:

This discussion is motivating me to add spaghetti to a western song I am recording. So, what is the essence of spaghetti western music, what is the defining characteristic?

Generally, I think it is sounding like Morricone, that is, lonely, isolated, individualistic, threatened and threatening, violent, antisocial, and thinking of death. Specifically this may mean adding guttural non-word vocal, whistling, bells or chimes, a tin whistle or piccolo or a thin-sounding harmonica, among other things. The guitar tones are electric twangy and echoey, not overdriven or distorted except perhaps briefly. There may be brass horns, but not reedy woodwinds. There may be organs or harpsichords, but not pianos.

Well, that's my view. What's yours?

I've recorded a handful of demos that capture the essence of what you've described, especially in terms of instrumentation and rhythms. I also think "haunting" is another emotion evoked by the genre. That seems a little harder to define, but for me falls into the category of "you know it when you hear it".

Spaghetti westerns seem to rely more on cinematography and music to convey emotions, rather than actual dialog. In some ways it seems similar to surf/instro relying on rhythms, key, phrasing, and instrumentation to tell a story without lyrics. I think "sparseness of notes" is another characteristic of the genre.

If interested, you can check out:

https://www.reverbnation.com/aminorconspiracy/song/25245854-legends-of-tabernas
Driven by acoustic guitar(s), trumpet, and heavy orchestration (strings, brass, and percussion).

https://www.reverbnation.com/aminorconspiracy/song/25252813-requiem-essere-dannati
Three sections... Intro with acoustic guitar and pipe organ (showing relationship between drifter/outlaw and spiritual past). 2nd section with electric guitar and ominous percussion during false imprisonment. 3rd section our anti-hero escapes and relies on his skills to attain freedom.

I was definitely ready to work on a I-IV-V surf song after those two. LOL

-murph

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The whole cd of Death Valley "que pasta"

Jeff(bigtikidude)

skeeter wrote:

Almost forgot these guys:

I LOVE Friends of Dean Martinez. I have everything they've done, and I want more. They did the soundtrack to the game Red Dead Redemption (one of the best games EVER, imo). A sequel is coming out in the near future, I hope they got to do that soundtrack as well.

If you don't mind some vocals, early Calexico has a definite Spaghetti feel. They had a lot of instros, but a lot of vocals as well.

Oh, there was some tracks on the Volebeats album Solitude that were nice spaghetti/desert-noir feeling. They had vocals too, but theres a good 4 or 5 solid instros on the album.

We had a user on this forum named Deadlands. He hasn't posted since 2015, but he was active for a while. His band had some spaghetti stuff too. I was able to get a physical copy of one of their EPs and it has some cool instros on it. Moody dark desert spaghetti stuff.

I really like the songs Buffalo Trails and When Death Rides A Horse

https://deadlands.bandcamp.com/album/deadlands-s-t

Looks like some other albums available too. I'm going to check them out.

Check out this compilation of original spaghetti westerns. I think it was released in '98.

Track Listing:
Hank Ray & The Executioners - Outlaw Kill
The Hellbenders - Have A Good Funeral...
DM Bob & The Deficits - Bandido Mexicano
Death Valley - Larry Storch Trilogy
The Dattonas - Baked Beans & Chicken
The Charles Napiers - Faceful Of Pasta
The Penetrators - 40 Miles To Vengeance
The Plantronics - Los Diablos
Pollo Del Mar - Playa Pistola
Brazil 2001 - Cactus
The Flacons - El Nino
The Space Hobos - Mexas
Mark Brodie & The Beaver Patrol - Bitch...
The Satelliters - El Loco Del La Sierra

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I believe there was 4 volumes of that series.
I need number 3 still.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

I did not know that was Friends of Dean Martinez, but I just looked it up and it was Bill Elm and Woody Jackson who were both in the band.
Very cool!! I too love that soundtrack and the game! Very haunting music, I hope they do bring them back for the new game.

josheboy wrote:

skeeter wrote:

I LOVE Friends of Dean Martinez. I have everything they've done, and I want more. They did the soundtrack to the game Red Dead Redemption (one of the best games EVER, imo). A sequel is coming out in the near future, I hope they got to do that soundtrack as well.

Paul
Atomic Mosquitos
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Great game and a great soundtrack. I think the new one is coming out in Spring 2018.

Peter Green did some amazing stuff in the spaghetti western vein.

"Oh Well-part 2" by the original (Peter Green's) Fleetwood Mac: https://youtu.be/2XPzSjAgF_I

"The Apostle" by Peter Green solo: 2 versions:one from the "In the Skies" LP, and one from a 45 single.
https://youtu.be/RfFayE0vuOQ
https://youtu.be/mWtPCCI75Rw

This is about as good as it gets for me.

Bob

Last edited: Jul 10, 2017 22:59:55

RobbieReverb wrote:

This is about as good as it gets for me.

You and me both! Just wow, these are incredible. This is what happens when you combine incredible playing and songwriting, and tap into an emotion. Thanks for sharing these.

-murph

http://www.reverbnation.com/elmiragesurf
http://www.reverbnation.com/aminorconspiracy

"I knew I was in trouble when the Coco-Loco tasted like water!" -- morphball

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