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Tis week it was .... Guitarnoir

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windmill Joined: Mar 22, 2006 Posts: 269	Posted on Apr 29 2006 08:32 PM By the Aquavelvets. That sweet sweet strat sound ..... or is it ? I have a couple of Aquavelvets albums and they are a complete change of atomosphere. So are/were they an actual band or was it a Miles Corbin studio project ? What are they doing now ? Is always a strat ? Just how does he get that sound ? is it straight to the board ? What amps if any ? — Freshwater Surfin' The Murray Basin Australia Top
RobbieReverb Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 2355 San Jose, Ca.	Posted on Apr 30 2006 01:26 AM They're a real band. In fact they played tonight at the Beach Chalet in San Francisco. Right now they're a trio, with Miles Corbin on Guitar, Shig Komiyama on drums, and ? on bass. Miles gets his stellar tone from strats through vintage fender amps and a rack full of delays and processors. They have 5 CD's out: "The Aquavlevets", "Surfmania", "Nomad", "Guitar Noire" and the 2CD live "Radio Waves". They also have 2 live CDR's out: "Cool & Waydown @ the Beach Chalet" (acoustic), and "Cool & Waydown @ the Park Chalet" (electric). There is also a CD called "BackFlip Louie & the Backwater Pagans". I'm not sure if that one is a fullfledged Aqua Velvets CD, or a Miles Corbin side project. Live and on their CD's these guys are phenominal. Most of their music is on the mellow side, but Miles gets that "slow burn" thing going, and peels the paint off the walls. All their CD's are killer. Check them out... Bob S. — Bob Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25574 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Apr 30 2006 09:21 PM To my preception, the Aqua Velvets are one of those bands that get lumped into the psyche/non surf catergory as the Mermen, and Insects Surfers, and that may be fine with them or not. But to me I really think of there stuff as mellow, beach side, sunset lounging, drinking ( sub genre of surf)music. I love all the cd's, and After I go the Cowabunga box set in the summer of 96. The first surf cd I got was a comp. called Surf this, ( it had the AV's Mermen, and some tracks form the Blazing Longboards sndtrak) I liked what I heard and went strait to tower records and was able to get a few AV's and Mermen cd's without any hassle. It was only later that I really dove head first into surf, that I would find out how hard it is to track down the harder to find stuff is. Anyways, I definetly 2nd your recomendation for people to check out the Aqua Velvets, if they are looking for a relaxing, but also very great band. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
PolloGuitar Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5097 San Francisco	Posted on May 01 2006 11:42 PM The Aqua Velvets have always been Miles Corbin and Michael Lindner as the core members and have always had excellent backup musicians for live shows. I have heard that the AVs are now a trio, that Michael is no longer with the band, but I heard that from somebody who may not be reliable. I am sorry to say I haven't made it down to the Park Chalet recently to see for myself. I love the Aqua Velvets, great songs and always a tight live band. Miles is extremely versatile guitarist, and though he writes great lines, he is not afraid to improvise of of them, and he certainly knows his inversions. Michael is a solid and groovin' player who really holds it all together. The studio CDs were mostly Miles (on guitar) and Michael (on bass, keys and drum programming) with the occasional live drummer. As for Guitar Noir, I really am on the fence. On the one hand, the songwriting is consistantly excellent and inventive. Miles really broke free from the surf structures (though they were never a trad band) of Surfmania. Guitar Noir is a real concept album, every song sounding like the soundtrack for a scene in a film noir detective movie, every song dark with heavy use of the melodic minor and mid-eastern scales. But, and for me a huge but, the production really misses the mark. The use of drum machines and synthesizers renders songs that should be warm and grainy like film, cold and digital. A song like "Twilight of the Hepcats" starts out with a stiffly programmed hi-hat figure that just makes it sound so canned. Also, the use of a synthesized trumpet, an instrument that should drip with human expression, makes the song just sound cheesy. My two favorite songs on Guitar Noir are Aqua Nova and Venetian Silohuttes, not surprizingly two of the five songs which feature a live drummer. If someone had never heard the AVs, I would suggest the Radio Waves or Cool and Low Down at the Beach Chalet. -ferenc — Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp Buy Spin the Bottle @ Bandcamp My Blog- Euro Tour Blog Pool Boys on Spotify INSTAGRAM Frankie & The Pool Boys on FB Pollo Del Mar on FB DJ Frankie Pool Boy on North Sea Surf Radio Top
IvanP Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan	Posted on May 01 2006 11:57 PM I really love the Aqua Velvets, but I also noticed that the real trad-heads don't care for them. Maybe it's all the stuff that Ferenc mentioned, the synths and the drum machines. I don't dig that part of it for sure, but their songs can be so incredibly evocative and visual that I can get over the production. I have a CD-R that compiles my favorites from their four CDs (well, actually there was nothing from their debut, for which I didn't care much), and I listen to that a LOT. Very Shadows influenced, but much more exotic. They can also get very psychadelic sometimes, but most of their songs are relatively straight-forward melodic instros, so I would think they should appeal to all surf/instro fans. Or maybe it's just that most surf fans want it hard and fast, and the Aqua Velvets don't do that. Too bad either way. A great band. (BTW, Ferenc's description applies to their version of the Shadows' "Atlantis", which they recorded for "An Evening In Nivram" tribute on MuSick. The drum machine makes that song sound soooo stiff. Too bad cause the guitar playing is pretty cool.) Ivan — Ivan Lords of Atlantis on Facebook The Madeira Official Website The Madeira on Facebook The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook The Space Cossacks on Facebook The Madeira Channel on YouTube Top
dp Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california	Posted on May 04 2006 08:32 PM i just recieved "Guitar Noir" today (thanks to this thread)... i think it's a beautiful album...i dig the synths, the synth horn lines, the drum machines, and the percusion...the melodies and the guitar tones are enchanting! the "pulp-instro" theme is also intriguing...like opening pages in a detective novel in the thrift store. the only flaw i have noticed are some slight tuning problems on one song between synths and guitars...just slightly distracting, that's all... i'm glad i have it, and i'm sure it will be on my rotation for qute a while as i slowly digest... -dp Top
revmike Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3807 North Atlantic	Posted on May 05 2006 05:57 PM Well after reading these posts about the AV, I thought I'd pick up the "Radio Waves" CD that has been sitting at one of the local music stores for quite a while. I'm really glad I did. This CD sounds great (songwriting, playing & recording). Haven't got all the way through it yet. Hawaiian Blue is playing now, as I type. My first exposure to AV was through the Cowabunga Box set, and while the sound and playing was nice, I couldn't get past the drum machine. Hearing "Nomad" didn't change my mind. "Radio Waves" fixed that for me (real drummer). Do any of the other CDs face a live band? Rev — Canadian Surf http://www.urbansurfkings.com/ Top
RobbieReverb Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 2355 San Jose, Ca.	Posted on May 05 2006 08:20 PM Mike, there are two live CDR's only available from the band, "Deep and Lowdown at the Beach Chalet", and "Deep and Lowdown at the Park Chalet". One is acoustic, and the other electric. You can get from the band at their website, or e-mail Miles. I like "Radio Waves" the best, but the CDR's are very good two. I'm not wild about the drum machines and synths on some of their studio CD's but the songwriting and guitar work is always stellar. Bob S. — Bob Top

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