I’m not exactly running to the cd store to get this but nice work compiling. Maybe for Metal fans growing opening up their horizon?

The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann

You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.

Not Metal, But Status Quo rocked pretty hard in the 1970s and Rick Parfitt RIP last week. So here they are with the Beach Boys.

Fady wrote:

Kawentzmann wrote:

I’m not exactly running to the cd store to get this but nice work compiling. Maybe for Metal fans growing opening up their horizon?

Same.

There have been many conversations from die-hards of this community who are also metal heads, and even some traces of it in various modern surf/surf-ish recordings, so nothing new here about the association or linkage.

Myself I don't see any correlation between surf and heavy metal other than HM has been popular for years and newcomers to surf adapt their musical influences to it. Surf has it's roots based in old fashioned R&B, Rockabilly or even Glenn Miller for instance.

What I was a bit intrigued by though was how young this guy appears.

It'd be interesting to compile a list of well known 50+ something year old guitarists who proclaim cutting their teeth on the Ventures or Shadows records. That'd be a pretty massive list.

If you're including some British guitar heroes then I can only think of one HM player who openly declares the Shadows as a big influence. Nearly all the others are post-war pre baby boom and influenced by early Rock & Rollers and bluesmen like Howling Wolf. Sure now they are older and appreciating middle of the road music they may tip their hats to the Shadows but back in later 1960s I doubt they would give them much thought. Most of these old rock gods are waiting for knighthood and Cliff and the Shadows are closer to royalty than most.. Don't be fooled by the nonsense.

I have to think that same list for those in their 30's/40's would be dramatically smaller. Definitely folks who later in those years discovered them (thanks Quentin), but probably very few learning about those guys when they were in their late teens/early 20's.

So yeah, I mean, that guy I posted videos of/from is only a sample of 1, but I'm sorta impressed for him to be so young (well past Pulp Fiction's expiration date), and to be playing what he does.

I guess my take away is that while this community often feel how relatively small and unknown Surf is, it is probably better known than we appreciate sometimes, even with todays younger generations. They may not all be dyed in the wool surf nuts, but somehow surf/instro is reaching well beyond the few dozen active regulars here ...and that's pretty cool. Well, and some of those metal licks minus the distortion sound pretty sweet too!

I would say that if it has a quick beat, a groove and a hook then there is a direct line from surf - rockabilly - metal. Based that on my own reasoning Rockabilly and metal led me to the faster surf tunes. The similarities are there it's just how the sound is coloured.

I am not obsolete, I am RETRO....

I really love certain forms of metal. I really love certain forms of surf music. IMHO, most attempts to mix the two are complete disasters. Same for "punk surf" (for me obviously).

Site dude - S3 Agent #202
Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me

"It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea

I don't mean to crap on what this guy is doing... he's obviously having fun and it is kind of cool to see some of these songs played like this. In my experience though "metal surf" and "punk surf" don't float my boat.

Site dude - S3 Agent #202
Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me

"It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea

Let's not forget that the King of Surf Guitar in the '90s started also describing himself as the Father of Heavy Metal. Whether that has any validity or not, there are clearly some connections that would lead him to make that claim.

Then there is this:

Ivan
Lords of Atlantis on Facebook
The Madeira Official Website
The Madeira on Facebook
The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook
The Space Cossacks on Facebook
The Madeira Channel on YouTube

DreadInBabylon wrote:

Historically, is that accurate (the part of the claim) that no act was louder than him (DD) in that period he started with those Showmans?

Ivan, maybe the theme for your next record? Colossal !!! Madeira with bones artwork. I'm losing my mind here, sorry.

He was probably the loudest act in the venues he was playing, especially in 1963. I'm sure the Beatles put out more decibels in 1964 once they started using those 100-watt Super Beatles. And I've played a couple of the AC50s they used in 1963 and those are as loud as a Showman. Did the Who 1965 onwards put out more sound, oh you bet!

For me the big take away is surf translates into metal better than vice versa. I still like to throw a bit a fuzz in here and there but I do so sparingly and since my surf conversion it always feels a just a bit dirty.

Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest

The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube

http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/

http://sharawaji.com/

http://surfrockradio.com/

Mixing genres has been popular for decades, mostly I tend to like the results. Sure it's blasphemy but I'm not interested in 1963, I'm 61 and old enough to remember it when much of it was new. But like most working musicians I get tired of the SOS and want something new. I love the surf punk bands and the bands that have moved on to rock-intro like my newest discovery the Beyonderers, really Daikaigu should be in this group as well. As for metal, well I'm trained in jazz and classical on piano and never met chops and technique I didn't love. Having said that I don't really relate to it. But keep my ears open regardless.