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Yes for bookers it must be very comfy to completely depend on a monopoly.

The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann

You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.

The most essential social network for surf bands is www.surfrockradio.com, more than a radio station, it is also becoming a social network as we slowly unlock features of the website.

I strongly believe that at some point in the future surfrockradio.com will also become the front end of a digital and physical distribution engine. We are unlocking these features slowly as we want to observe worrying trends in the music industry eg streaming via pandora and spotify and ensure that bands have some way of generating revenue from their music.

And here is the reason why
A profile page on Surf Rock Radio is designed from the ground up to be more useful than most band websites, for example users can add comments and reviews using various comment systems, and the page is easily shareable and bookmarkable.

Tags show similar sounding or related bands. And cart icons show people clearly where to click to buy your music.

And of course, if your band does make it on to the official surf rock charts, you will have a horde of other bands promoting the article containing the link to your music via various platforms including facebook, twitter, linkedin, pinterest and almost every other social network.

We are slowly opening up these features, and sg101 members are welcome to create an account - look under the MUSIC menu and select user login, then create an account.
http://surfrockradio.com/create-an-account/

We are now testing the functionality for bands to be able to add and edit their own band profiles, and of course upload music.

Bands will also be able to get a surfrockradio.com/bandname URL which they should use at every opportunity because every visit to a bands profile helps their chart ranking.

Mike \ooo/

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@Mike75 I’m sure this is going to be a tremendous success. But there is one thing I’m going to miss: a good Surf tune right in the middle of a ton of other (cool) music. Which is when the magic really hits hard.

The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann

You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.

Kawentzmann wrote:

Yes for bookers it must be very comfy to completely depend on a monopoly.

Which is not what I, or he, said.

Los Fantasticos

Last edited: Nov 22, 2016 01:26:43

djangodeadman wrote:

Kawentzmann wrote:

Yes for bookers it must be very comfy to completely depend on a monopoly.

Which is not what I, or he, said.

Sorry, I should have made it clearer: I said that.

The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann

You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.

djangodeadman wrote:

Interestingly, I was with a friend of mine this afternoon; he's the guy who books shows at one of the venues where I work doing sound. He was being interviewed by someone doing a survey on how bookers and promoters find acts (I suspect he was angling to sell some new kind of online tool for bands). My friend told him that Facebook gave him all the information he needed to find out about bands. The interviewer was somewhat deflated, but it is the truth, isn't it? You may not want to use Facebook personally, but I'd suggest it was pretty foolish to abandon it for your band at this point.

Having done some booking for a couple of local venues a few years ago the main thing I looked for was live video.

Yes I also typically checked out their facebook page if they had one but live video was the best indicator of what a band had to offer imo.

I once booked a band based on their awesome promo package that included a pretty decent audio CD only to find out that live they were pretty awful. Shock

METEOR IV on reverbnation

After a couple of months since dumping facebook, I'm glad I chose to unplug. I'm finding out that many others in my circle have done the same.

Guess I'll wait around for the next best thing and perhaps give that a go when / if that happens. Laughing

METEOR IV on reverbnation

To browse FB without logging, use
Facebook_nag_screen_remover script with Greasemonkey and Firefox.

I've noticed some people that said they were leaving FB still go there to look, I find that very funny.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

How can you leave something you never signed up to? Wink
Seriously, though it can be framed as disingenuous behavior, there is reasoning.
1. Privacy from FB's own (and their affiliates') database. They do track everything, analyze behavioral patterns, and then implement it as social programming. Not just pushing ads - manipulating data served and creating economical and political paths of influence, that are then sold. I want none part of that.
2. Not to be compared to politics and stuff, where there is an issue with personal responsibility. This is just a company that decided to be as big and bad as can be. I don't see no money from it, most nobody does.
I don't need to advertise my person or me liking stuff, or be affiliated with something, just to see content that is free and public.
Same for SG101, I'm sure there are many 'lurkers', as I was for a couple of years before joining. Legitimate, Id' think...
3. The fact that THEY want you to, so much. Too much. Nag screens, find your friends... all that s***. It says something. Smells rotten. In serve of a disgusting globalistic, technocratic agenda, they already practice censorship, one-sided mind control, fake news about fake news... No less than the good ol' days of PRAVDA. The hypocrisy is insane. Twitter is the same. They fall, and I be watching. I won't sign up for the brain chip, either.
4. I like sharing and communicating very much, here. Smile Like this, this is nice.

Last edited: Jan 15, 2017 15:50:05

I think it's like anything. It depends on who uses it and how deep you get involved. I use it for business, promoting events, messaging people and occasionally skimming through looking at stuff. But I have dropped back on my time there as like Youtube etc it can be a massive rabbit hole and time waster.
Plus I steer away from comments on most social media nowdays as they get toxic fast. I mean you check out some great guitarists video snd you have a bunch of armchair critics comparing him or her, criticizing technique or their playing! Pointless to me.
I did the same with forums until this site which is very positive...and everyone seems to respect one anothers tastes and differences which makes it the richer.
Facebook is the wild west in comparison.

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Last edited: Mar 01, 2020 11:41:36

DreadInBabylon wrote:

How can you leave something you never signed up to? Wink
Seriously, though it can be framed as disingenuous behavior, there is reasoning.
1. Privacy from FB's own (and their affiliates') database. They do track everything, analyze behavioral patterns, and then implement it as social programming. Not just pushing ads - manipulating data served and creating economical and political paths of influence, that are then sold. I want none part of that.
2. Not to be compared to politics and stuff, where there is an issue with personal responsibility. This is just a company that decided to be as big and bad as can be. I don't see no money from it, most nobody does.
I don't need to advertise my person or me liking stuff, or be affiliated with something, just to see content that is free and public.
Same for SG101, I'm sure there are many 'lurkers', as I was for a couple of years before joining. Legitimate, Id' think...
3. The fact that THEY want you to, so much. Too much. Nag screens, find your friends... all that s***. It says something. Smells rotten. In serve of a disgusting globalistic, technocratic agenda, they already practice censorship, one-sided mind control, fake news about fake news... No less than the good ol' days of PRAVDA. The hypocrisy is insane. Twitter is the same. They fall, and I be watching. I won't sign up for the brain chip, either.
4. I like sharing and communicating very much, here. Smile Like this, this is nice.

Ditto. You got to almost the point I would have w/o a thread de-rail; nicely done.

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

To be fair: If I would've been promoting a band, I'd see it as stupid not to use any and every social media tool available to the time (within limits, for sure). Business is business.

Badger wrote:

Ditto. You got to almost the point I would have w/o a thread de-rail; nicely done.

Appreciate that Wes. Well the title does say "now what" which leaves it kind of open question and it's interesting discussion. The big picture is what I'm trying to address, beyond hosting platforms.

Number9 wrote:

Facebuck & Co. are things of the past.
Do not underestimate the ability of people to realize the nature of the alienation they have willingly accepted.

I hope so and want to agree. It has gone too far already, don't you think? The fact that it has, doesn't leave me with much trust. Of course they will be replaced, nothing lasts. The question is if those systems will give the human race an opportunity lo learn itself better to better itself, or rather allow us to eat each other more comfortably. To what extent we proven our responsibility/maturity with technological advancements so far, and how long did it take to 'normalize' (balancing animalistic urges), if at all. Seems that these time spans are getting shorter exponentially, for good and worse. Will humanity need computers to teach us to how be human, and who will be programming those, then? Same as now, those who profit.

Last edited: Jan 16, 2017 10:57:41

If the government wanted the same amount of information that is happily shared on Facebook, we would all be protesting, or frightened (depends on your government I guess!).

I'm also amazed how people befriend people they don't know, then tell everyone when they are going on holiday etc etc.

http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/

da-ron wrote:

If the government wanted the same amount of information that is happily shared on Facebook, we would all be protesting, or frightened (depends on your government I guess!).

If you've shared it on Facebook, the government already has it.

I'm also amazed how people befriend people they don't know, then tell everyone when they are going on holiday etc etc.

Any rank & file police officer has taken theft reports with this cause & effect.

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

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Last edited: Mar 01, 2020 11:41:10

djangodeadman wrote:

Interestingly, I was with a friend of mine this afternoon; he's the guy who books shows at one of the venues where I work doing sound. He was being interviewed by someone doing a survey on how bookers and promoters find acts (I suspect he was angling to sell some new kind of online tool for bands). My friend told him that Facebook gave him all the information he needed to find out about bands. The interviewer was somewhat deflated, but it is the truth, isn't it? You may not want to use Facebook personally, but I'd suggest it was pretty foolish to abandon it for your band at this point.

I am part of a Jazz Trio and we created apage when we atarted 6 months ago. We gig twice a month and advertise events snd invite people. We have people, both known and not known to us, turn up to our gigs due to Facebook.
It is a great way to let people know about your gig/event. I also find it a wealth of info and way of connecting with musicians I would never hear of otherwise.
Again it is really what we make of it and having discipline with it.
I block all political stuff and stick to artists and musicians in my timeline..

This is only interesting to people releasing videos of original material on facebook.

The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann

You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.

Kawentzmann wrote:

This is only interesting to people releasing videos of original material on facebook.

Ah, but he doesn't need to pay any artists. He gives them exposure, and everyone knows that artists can live off a small dose of exposure for many months. Wink

http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/

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