Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Nov 03 2016 03:36 PM
Im considering modifying my Joyo Tremolo as iv found a video on youtube thats made it seem super simple for someone s limited as me on electrical tinkering.....despite a few differences in a few components,its a clone of the Demeter Tremulator.
The Joyo Tremolo has a stock flat triangle wave shape....the pot mod will enable the capabilities of a square wave all the way to a triangle.....would this mod be worth my time?
I only ask because im not sure what the most common wave shape is for surf.
To those of you who do use tremolo,do you find yourself staying with the same shape constantly for either habit or nostalgic reasons and just switch up depth and speed? Or do you prefer to switch it around all across the board?
— If you want the ultimate,you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
Brett
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Nov 03 2016 04:22 PM
The wave 'shapes' are simplified cuts of the volume envelope graph. Square wave corresponds to drastic rise and fall, i.e. choppy, i.e. machine-gun type. (which is hard to dial in without a 'bias' control).
It's fun, but as far from classic surf as you can get.
Still why not? up to you! It will probably affect the re-sellability of the pedal if it's any concern. A yeah, Joyo  Go ahead then...
From the simple shapes, classic trems would best be described as 'sine' (Though there's some interlacing going on). Maybe one of the in-between settings can get you a 'soft trapezoid', which may or not sound like Fender.
Personally I got rid of all my over the top versatile trem pedals.
I only need the Blackface/Brownface sounds in my life, and the Surfy-Bear Tremolo (to be released... sometime) provides that to the fullness.
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Latherman87
Joined: Dec 20, 2012
Posts: 178
Oklahoma
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Posted on Nov 03 2016 08:32 PM
DreadInBabylon wrote:
The wave 'shapes' are simplified cuts of the volume envelope graph. Square wave corresponds to drastic rise and fall, i.e. choppy, i.e. machine-gun type. (which is hard to dial in without a 'bias' control).
It's fun, but as far from classic surf as you can get.
Still why not? up to you! It will probably affect the re-sellability of the pedal if it's any concern. A yeah, Joyo Go ahead then...
From the simple shapes, classic trems would best be described as 'sine' (Though there's some interlacing going on). Maybe one of the in-between settings can get you a 'soft trapezoid', which may or not sound like Fender.
Personally I got rid of all my over the top versatile trem pedals.
I only need the Blackface/Brownface sounds in my life, and the Surfy-Bear Tremolo (to be released... sometime) provides that to the fullness.
You know iv probably watched the short youtube video of the surfy bear tremolo about 20 times in the last week haha! I'm gonna have to get me one! Until then...I guess I'll mod the joyo!
— If you want the ultimate,you gotta be willing to pay the ultimate price.
Brett
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Nov 04 2016 05:55 AM
DreadInBabylon wrote:
Personally I got rid of all my over the top versatile trem pedals.
I only need the Blackface/Brownface sounds in my life, and the Surfy-Bear Tremolo (to be released... sometime) provides that to the fullness.
You are going to like that pedal A LOT.
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Nov 04 2016 06:39 AM
Badger wrote:
You are going to like that pedal A LOT.
Oh do I!!! https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/28106/?page=2#p381426 (was honored to take part in early testing.)
Might be time for a better demo though...
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4537
Wisconsin
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Posted on Nov 04 2016 10:16 AM
DreadInBabylon wrote:
Oh do I!!! https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/28106/?page=2#p381426 (was honored to take part in early testing.)
Might be time for a better demo though...
Oh, COOL. Forgot that. I thought you were waiting for the main release. (I got mine via the Lorenzo initial run.)
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.
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SanchoPansen
Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
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Posted on Nov 04 2016 11:18 AM
DreadInBabylon wrote:
Badger wrote:
You are going to like that pedal A LOT.
Oh do I!!! https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/28106/?page=2#p381426 (was honored to take part in early testing.)
Might be time for a better demo though...
Check out my demo in the meantime over here ;-)
Ariel, we should team up for a pro-demo!
— The Hicadoolas
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Nov 05 2016 12:00 PM
Latherman87, sorry for the hijack... Good luck.
Modding a pedal is a good starting point, as it builds confidence.
Kilian, that could be very cool! What do you have in mind?
Let's move to PM's. (Empty your Inbox please!)
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SanchoPansen
Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
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Posted on Nov 14 2016 01:23 AM
Hi Ariel,
good question. We should make a real video with excellent tonal quality.
Not just the usual: 'Hi, I'm blabla from blabla and here's a Les Paul on neck PU for maximum blues.'
Something really surfy! What do you think?
Cheers
Kilian
P.S.: Emptied my inbox, let's move to pm.
DreadInBabylon wrote:
Latherman87, sorry for the hijack... Good luck.
Modding a pedal is a good starting point, as it builds confidence.
Kilian, that could be very cool! What do you have in mind?
Let's move to PM's. (Empty your Inbox please!)
— The Hicadoolas
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