Got me an FRV-1 as a backup for my Gomez G-Spring

GregEL

Joined: Mar 16, 2016
Posts: 217
Highland CA

Posted on Sep 12 2016 08:34 PM

Was cruising this site and saw where Ivan P. (my hero) mentioned he uses his for practice sometimes, etc.

Makes perfect sense. I practice a lot and am a bit reluctant to fire up my Gomez several times a day, every day. My thinking is it cuts down on wear and tear.

And you know what? The FRV-1 ain't bad, not at all. Plan on reserving the Gomez for gigs with the FRV-1 on my board just in case.

That's all...

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D22

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Posted on Sep 12 2016 08:47 PM

The G-Spring is built for rugged operation.
Power up at will.
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GregEL

Joined: Mar 16, 2016
Posts: 217
Highland CA

Posted on Sep 12 2016 09:09 PM

Thanks Dario. Suppose I shouldn't believe everything I read about tubes wearing out.

Every time I use my G-Spring I feel like I'm driving a Ferrari.

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JakeDobner

Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Sep 12 2016 09:32 PM

The G-Spring's construction is solid. You can keep that thing powered on for large amounts of times and you can use it many many many times a day.

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D22

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Posted on Sep 12 2016 09:46 PM

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Gilette

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Posted on Sep 13 2016 03:35 AM

That would be great Dario. It's been sad to read your posts over the last few months, so I hope this thing will take a turn for the better for you. Good luck man!

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GregEL

Joined: Mar 16, 2016
Posts: 217
Highland CA

Posted on Sep 25 2016 01:34 AM

Returned the FRV-1. Nothing wrong with it, it was just redundant with the Gomez. No comparison really.

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kick_the_reverb

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Escondido, CA
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Posted on Sep 25 2016 11:00 AM

Yep!

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JObeast

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Posted on Sep 25 2016 07:45 PM

Craftsmanship wins out! Why drive a Ford when you have a Ferrari in your garage?

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Ariel

Joined: Aug 29, 2009
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Israel
Israel

Posted on Sep 26 2016 01:03 PM

Anyone with a tube reverb, who gigs, would be wise to build himself a little box with the Surfy-Bear in it. In a case of failure, it would be a matter of a quick change of cables.

Otherwise,
Heh!

You know that feeling, when switching (immediately) from a real reverb to a digital one? (stepping down...)
Like when your first crush said "No"... Like when you come out of the club to find the van gone.
That pit in your stomach, that sinking feeling. Alienation and despair. Might as well go listen to Gary Newman. Might as well make Techno, who cares. Digital death.

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Reverb17

Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 508
NYC
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Posted on Sep 29 2016 10:51 AM

As someone who plays out live a lot, I have to say that I prefer using a pedal over a tube reverb for a # of reasons.
The #1 reason being most stages we play are small and I don't like taking up room on stage with a reverb unit. It's footprint is almost as big as a small amp and I don't want to worry about moving around and unintentionally kicking the unit. #2 reason- even with a surfy bear, you have a reverb pan that has to be handled with some care or the pan can be damaged. Most of the shows we play are multiple band nights and you only have so much time to set up and break down your equipment. Plus you have other people moving your stuff of knocking into it before and after the set. #3 - when playing live there are many factors that are out of your hands when it comes to the sound of your set-up, that the subtleties of the tube reverb are negated. This includes the overall mix covering up a lot of the frequencies that give the the tube reverb unit its advantages.
A lot of the time the great reverb tone that sounds amazing in a solo setting does not translate well to a band mix, thus rendering the argument that the harshness of a peddle somewhat moot. A lot of the time that harshness is exactly what is needed for the sound to cut through the mix. #4 Most of the time, the audience couldn't care less or notice what your playing through, as long as it sounds good. Just as I have heard people playing through pedals that didn't sound good, I have heard many bands using outboard reverbs that didn't sound great as well. A lot of the time this is the result the person not taking the time to figure out how to set up their sound in relation to the overall mix.

My point is that if you take the time, you can set up a great reverb sound with pedals. In my case I use a Stryman Flint reverb and a FRV-1.
The flint is my main surf reverb but if I want the extra drip, I run the FRV-1 set with the dwell on the low side and the tone high into the Flint and get all the drip I want.

This is only in a live situation.
When it comes to recording, I agree the outboard tube reverb has the the advantage. On both of our CD's I used an outboard 90% of the time.

Again, this is just my opinion. I am in no way saying that my way is the only way that works, or works best.

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GregEL Joined: Mar 16, 2016 Posts: 217 Highland CA	Posted on Sep 12 2016 08:34 PM Was cruising this site and saw where Ivan P. (my hero) mentioned he uses his for practice sometimes, etc. Makes perfect sense. I practice a lot and am a bit reluctant to fire up my Gomez several times a day, every day. My thinking is it cuts down on wear and tear. And you know what? The FRV-1 ain't bad, not at all. Plan on reserving the Gomez for gigs with the FRV-1 on my board just in case. That's all... Top
D22 Joined: Apr 20, 2006 Posts: 2054	Posted on Sep 12 2016 08:47 PM The G-Spring is built for rugged operation. Power up at will. — Top
GregEL Joined: Mar 16, 2016 Posts: 217 Highland CA	Posted on Sep 12 2016 09:09 PM Thanks Dario. Suppose I shouldn't believe everything I read about tubes wearing out. Every time I use my G-Spring I feel like I'm driving a Ferrari. Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Sep 12 2016 09:32 PM The G-Spring's construction is solid. You can keep that thing powered on for large amounts of times and you can use it many many many times a day. Top
D22 Joined: Apr 20, 2006 Posts: 2054	Posted on Sep 12 2016 09:46 PM - — Last edited: Sep 13, 2016 10:22:51 Top
Gilette Joined: May 04, 2014 Posts: 734	Posted on Sep 13 2016 03:35 AM That would be great Dario. It's been sad to read your posts over the last few months, so I hope this thing will take a turn for the better for you. Good luck man! Top
GregEL Joined: Mar 16, 2016 Posts: 217 Highland CA	Posted on Sep 25 2016 01:34 AM Returned the FRV-1. Nothing wrong with it, it was just redundant with the Gomez. No comparison really. Top
kick_the_reverb Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 1335 Escondido, CA	Posted on Sep 25 2016 11:00 AM Yep! — The Scimitars Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Sep 25 2016 07:45 PM Craftsmanship wins out! Why drive a Ford when you have a Ferrari in your garage? — Squink Out! Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel	Posted on Sep 26 2016 01:03 PM Anyone with a tube reverb, who gigs, would be wise to build himself a little box with the Surfy-Bear in it. In a case of failure, it would be a matter of a quick change of cables. Otherwise, Heh! You know that feeling, when switching (immediately) from a real reverb to a digital one? (stepping down...) Like when your first crush said "No"... Like when you come out of the club to find the van gone. That pit in your stomach, that sinking feeling. Alienation and despair. Might as well go listen to Gary Newman. Might as well make Techno, who cares. Digital death. Last edited: Sep 26, 2016 13:05:33 Top
Reverb17 Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 508 NYC	Posted on Sep 29 2016 10:51 AM As someone who plays out live a lot, I have to say that I prefer using a pedal over a tube reverb for a # of reasons. The #1 reason being most stages we play are small and I don't like taking up room on stage with a reverb unit. It's footprint is almost as big as a small amp and I don't want to worry about moving around and unintentionally kicking the unit. #2 reason- even with a surfy bear, you have a reverb pan that has to be handled with some care or the pan can be damaged. Most of the shows we play are multiple band nights and you only have so much time to set up and break down your equipment. Plus you have other people moving your stuff of knocking into it before and after the set. #3 - when playing live there are many factors that are out of your hands when it comes to the sound of your set-up, that the subtleties of the tube reverb are negated. This includes the overall mix covering up a lot of the frequencies that give the the tube reverb unit its advantages. A lot of the time the great reverb tone that sounds amazing in a solo setting does not translate well to a band mix, thus rendering the argument that the harshness of a peddle somewhat moot. A lot of the time that harshness is exactly what is needed for the sound to cut through the mix. #4 Most of the time, the audience couldn't care less or notice what your playing through, as long as it sounds good. Just as I have heard people playing through pedals that didn't sound good, I have heard many bands using outboard reverbs that didn't sound great as well. A lot of the time this is the result the person not taking the time to figure out how to set up their sound in relation to the overall mix. My point is that if you take the time, you can set up a great reverb sound with pedals. In my case I use a Stryman Flint reverb and a FRV-1. The flint is my main surf reverb but if I want the extra drip, I run the FRV-1 set with the dwell on the low side and the tone high into the Flint and get all the drip I want. This is only in a live situation. When it comes to recording, I agree the outboard tube reverb has the the advantage. On both of our CD's I used an outboard 90% of the time. Again, this is just my opinion. I am in no way saying that my way is the only way that works, or works best. — TarantinosNYC TarantinosNYC FB page The WrayCyclers FB page Rockaway Beach Surf Music Festival Last edited: Sep 29, 2016 11:01:26 Top

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