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After much consideration and waffling between new or used, Squier or Fender, etc, I decided to pull the trigger on Squier VM Jazzmaster. For what it's worth, I am passing along how I came to my decision and my purchasing experience.

I would like to someday own a Fender guitar that proudly displays the classic Fender logo on the headstock in large script. I really would. It appeals to the brand snob in me, but the reality is I'm a bedroom noodler and I don't gig. Not that I don't believe that a Squier is perfectly capable of gigging, I know that many do, I'm just saying that I’m more in the Squier demographic than a working professional. However, that being said, the Surf Green Classic Player Lacquer caused me to think long and hard.

So what factors led me to buy the Squier over the Fender? Pardon me while I stream of conscience for a bit.

I want a guitar that I would feel comfortable leaving out in a stand next to my desk, at the mercy of kids (not really a problem, they have their own guitars and know how to take care of them) and (more importantly) cats. I have been told that lacquer finishes should not be left in long term contact with the protective padding found on guitar stands. I really want a guitar that is readily available, plugged in and ready to go, not one that I would have to pull from a case, insert the tremolo arm and then plug in. It's a small thing, but those five minute intervals for a little playing between all of life's obligations are precious to me. The Squier's tough urethane finish fits the bill and the price makes the fortunes' of chance more tolerable.

Every guitar I have ever owned has had a 9.5' radius, or flatter, and medium jumbo frets, or larger. I hope to have the opportunity to try out some 7..5” vintage fret models. I might be missing out on a feature I would enjoy, but, again, the Squier's setup is what I'm used to.

This is my first offset body style guitar. This guitar is an experiment for me. I may find that in the long run I prefer my Strat (score one for team Ivan), in which case my dream-Fender money would be better spent on a fine MIA Stratocaster. I am well aware that some people find the offset style, especially the bridge, more problematic than others. I plan to do everything I can to keep it stock and to do most of that setup work myself (with the aid of all the information here at SG101 and Duceditor's fine guide over at Squier-Talk's forum. In line with that goal, I’m more comfortable with a truss rod adjustment located on the headstock than one that would require access to where the neck joins the body. That's just for ease of ongoing maintenance, I am completely comfortable removing the neck for shimming, if needed. If staying stock turns out to be untenable, I'm more at ease doing electronics surgery on a Squier, and if a Mastery bridge is called for, I've saved some money on the initial cost to pay for it.

All that being said, if the Jazzmaster becomes my true love, I can still pursue the Lacquer or even an AVRI, but for now the Squier VM JM better fits my curiosity, budget, and needs.

And now for the purchasing experience.

Color was a tough decision. The only color that I did not consider was CAR. I already have a Squier Standard Stratocaster in CAR and an Affinity Tele in Metallic Red, so enough red, already. I finally decided on Olympic White. That could be the Eddie Katcher influence (score one for team Katcher Wink ).

I hit some of the local music stores to check out tone, feel, color, fit and finish in person, but that was a mixed bag. If Jazzmasters were available at all, they had limited colors and at one store I believe the vibrato had been tightened to the point of allowing no actual vibrato at all. That, plus trying to hear the guitars I was testing over the din of other players and even the store's “background” music led me to go online.

I like the way Sweetwater operates. They do an inspection of their guitars and then post photos of the specific guitars they are offering. They were out of stock on Olympic Whites so I gave them my email so they could notify me when they got some in. After a couple of week's waiting, I received the promised email and found three with photos on their site. Being able to view the different guitars from all angles and knowing that a technician at Sweetwater had inspected (if only briefly) and tuned up the guitar help me to feel at least a little in control of the purchase, as opposed to blindly accepting the top box from the warehouse.

Having made my pick I decided to follow a tip I have seen here and other places to call and ask for a discount. I also decided to get the Gator Offset-body gig bag. Upon asking for a reduced price if I bought both, the salesperson at Sweetwater immediately said, yes, they would be able to do something. The price shown on the site was $299 for the JM and $40 for the bag, he came back with a total cost, including tax and S&H, of $310. On the invoice they applied all of the discount to the guitar, so the price was $270. Or you can say I paid full price for the JM and got the bag for $10, either way I'm glad I made the call instead of just clicking and paying.

Also, my timing was fortuitous in that on Wednesday the price for VM Jazzmasters increased by $100. That's part of the shell game played by manufactures and retailers. In the course of a week the standard asking price went from $299 to $399 and then settled at $319, and that new price is advertised as a “Price Drop”. That's only true if you started shopping on Wednesday, but that's the game.

I made my purchase Saturday morning, and it arrived Wednesday afternoon. It was well packaged and arrived in excellent condition. It came strung with 9s and felt and played great. I hated to do it but, after carefully measuring the action and neck relief, I replaced the strings with DR Pure Blues 11s. After tuning up, I let it sit overnight and then adjusted the relief. At this point I noticed a slight buzz at the saddle for the D string. Inspection under a magnifier showed that the larger gauge string was now touching the end of the intonation screw. I lowered the saddle about a quarter turn of the hex wrench and all seems good. I played for a bit and then put my new baby aside to let the truss rod adjustment settle and to write this post.

Am I happy so far? Absolutely! It sounds lovely, definitely a different tone from my Strat and Tele. The JM feels great in my hands. The neck is very smooth, not at all sticky like you might imagine a poly neck to be. The finish is perfect. The reason I chose this specific one over the other two pictured at Sweetwater is because in the online photos I could see a hint of flamed maple on the neck. In my hands, under natural light, the flame is very distinct and just beautiful. I hear it calling me again. Surf's up! Time to play!

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-Tim
MyYouTubeChannel
My Classic Instrumental Surf Music Timeline
SSS Agent #777

Last edited: Feb 07, 2016 18:09:03

Good post. Smile

nice! Olympic white was a great choice. I look forward to evaluation updates.

From past me to future you

Last edited: Feb 07, 2016 21:35:18

You never have to justify buying any guitar....Squier or otherwise.
If it's fun to play, who cares what name is on the headstock.

congrats!

Hey hey, another fine day in Surfdom!

Big time congrats on your exceptional score! I have eyed those for some time. What a bargain! It is a hell of a lot of guitar for a small amount of hard earned cash.

If you would like assistance getting it spot on, let me know. I can PM you my phone # if you don't already have it.

When you want to jam out on some instro, just yell, we are practically neighbors. I am always looking for opportunities to play. You have an open invitation, and are always welcome to come hang out and hide from your cats in the "boatwerx."

I think the main issue with the finishes is not to leave the nitro coated ones lying on leather. Correct me here Jeff if that's incorrect.

Best reverbs fellow offset owner! Katcher's favorite color too!

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

Thank you, all!

And, Wow, Eddie! A chance to study at the feet of an offset master?! Worship It would be an honor to take you up on your kind offer! Look for my PM.

It is folks like you that make Surfguitar101 such an awesome community. SG101!

-Tim

-Tim
MyYouTubeChannel
My Classic Instrumental Surf Music Timeline
SSS Agent #777

SF,

You are too kind! Always excited about helping out. It will be fun! I'll go clean off the "bench." Laughing

Ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

Be sure to read Don "Duceditor's" review of why the Jazzmaster is such a great guitar. There's no reason to switch out the bridge as many have demonstrated. Both Don and I have posted about setting up those bridges.

enjoy!

Side notes, I prefer the glossy poly neck especially on a bass, it allows me to anchor my hand. I've always used 9s. I've never had an issue with a finish and being in contact with various whatevers.

Also, just leave the tremolo bar in if you use it.

Tim,
Congratulations of the new Jazzmaster. If you're going to Ed's house don't tell the Mrs you're going to see the blondes he keeps in the basement. She'll look at you funny and tell you that you can't go.

ROTFL Thanks, Mike! And don't worry about me telling my wife about Eddie's blondes. I just need to explain it the way Eddie does:

...almost all of them are over 50 years old and are still doing what they were designed to do. And doing it well, seldom complaining, without a lot of maintenance...

Oh, wait, that's not helping...

-Tim
MyYouTubeChannel
My Classic Instrumental Surf Music Timeline
SSS Agent #777

Nice guitar! Fender seem to be turning out some great Jazzmaster and Jaguar guitars at the moment.

http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/

Congrats on the new guitar. I got one of those before my Strats. Pretty good bang for the buck especially if you like the radius. (The Classic 60's are very nice but have the 7.25" radius & vintage frets.)

Mine is now, except for the body, pretty much a regular JM, done over time. The biggest change other than the neck came when putting in Pure Vintage pickups rather than the Duncan-Designed it comes with (because the D-D bridge is so hot). Fender got those right.

Gorgeous color & lovely neck figuring. Smile
If I was down there I'd jump on the opportunity of Ed's clearing off his bench & the chance to talk JM's 1:1.
Enjoy!

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

The bench is ready..........Well, at least as ready as it ever gets.

I have a LOT of vices and one of them relates to me hating to see good horizontal space go uncluttered. However, I do have a plausible explanation for a lot of it: My ancestors were "hunter gathers". It is in my DNA and that is NOT my fault.

Having not built a boat down there in almost fifteen years, I build go kart engines on my radial arm saw table, pile crap all over speaker cabinets doubling as "single shelf" storage units. The floor is normally an ever-changing obstacle course which is always an interesting challenge for the Surge! boys (and any other brave souls risking passage). In one word the basement is "Legendary."

That is my story and I am sticking with it.

I am really looking forward to helping Tim sort out his new Jazzmaster. Despite what some people think, they are wonderful guitars.

Come on down Badge! Ponder a trip to Big-A for Sept and our Southern Surf Stomp Fest. There will be a lot of great surf and intro crammed into one great weekend. I can R and R ya from the airport (but you will have to "work" on my sound crew. Laughing

Reverbs,

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

eddiekatcher wrote:

Come on down Badge! Ponder a trip to Big-A for Sept and our Southern Surf Stomp Fest. There will be a lot of great surf and intro crammed into one great weekend. I can R and R ya from the airport (but you will have to "work" on my sound crew. Laughing

Reverbs,

ed

Have a similar bench; you're right, it must be DNA. If I wasn't in somewhat of a caregiver role I'd be on the road perpetually, making laps around CONUS for some blue-water surf music, southern spring instro summits (and right now Cubs spring training in AZ would look pretty good too).

Thanks for the kind invite - I will hold onto that thought (especially during double-digits below 0).
Cool

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

Badger wrote:

...(and right now Cubs spring training in AZ would look pretty good too).

Here's to a Cubs vs Indians 2016 WS! Off Topic -- Cheers

Badge,

We could get ya pointed homeward quickly! Go south young man.

Ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

eddiekatcher wrote:

Badge,

We could get ya pointed homeward quickly! Go south young man.

Ed

Wes,
OR - July could be good for a trip to the Stomp show, I hear some cats from Nashville might be down there then and then we could all get together in Ed's shop - Now THAT sounds like fun!

Cheers,
Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

I'll make a path to the band room for that good time! We could bill it as the "Pick Jeff's Brain-A-Palooza at Ed's" event.

He could (among other actually attainable objectives) Wes, instruct us in the fine art of maintaining a tidy work bench.

You can run but you can't hide Jeffery.

Ed No

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

eddiekatcher wrote:

I'll make a path to the band room for that good time! We could bill it as the "Pick Jeff's Brain-A-Palooza at Ed's" event.

He could (among other actually attainable objectives) Wes, instruct us in the fine art of maintaining a tidy work bench.

You can run but you can't hide Jeffery.

Nay Good Sir,
It is the brilliant and inventive brains of you and Wes I would like to combine along with my evil super power gifts of mediocrity to create some serious inventions, music and general bullshit. LOL

Man, we'd have fun!

Ed No

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

Oh and....
Tim,
Congrats on your new Jazzmaster!
I love the color combo.
Definitely take Ed up on his offer. He has much to share and teach.

Done de-railing your thread,
Jeff

http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic
http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock
http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic

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