Agent Orange Guitar Tone

frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 10:55 AM

does anyone know how to get the guitar tone off the first agent orange album Living In Darkness? I've been trying and trying and I just cant get that tone he gets on miserlou is there a pedal or something that would succeed in getting that surf punk tone heard all over the album?

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ArabSpringReverb

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 11:28 AM

I think Mike is on this site from time to time...best to ask him directly

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 11:43 AM

do you know like how to contact him or something Id love to pick his brain on a few things

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Richard

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 02:09 PM

Maybe Facebook? He seems pretty active.

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killbabykill34

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 03:21 PM

He is all over Facebook. But he doesn't seem to be very responsive to people on there. I would throw the question on his wall and see what happens.

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 03:32 PM

I tried but you cant really post to his wall ive been waiting on his friend request for months

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 03:33 PM

I really dont know how he gets that great biting tone

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Richard

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 04:09 PM

Well, I don't really know, but I know how my buddy used to do it in the punk band he had in high school; a bridge humbucker on a solid body guitar into a Boss DS-1 and some amp. I would caution against getting too caught up in nailing it from the recording and just chase the sound in your head. You get as close as you can, and after that it's all about you selling it.

The friend I refer to is no longer on this plane, but if I remember correctly he taught me the very first song that anyone taught me how to play and played with me, which was 'Bloodstains' off of 'Living in Darkness.' His band covered it and because of that it was one of the first ten punk albums I ever bought. That it was "surf" punk and actually had some rodded up surf tunes on it was pure joy. I am actually getting to open for Agent Orange in a few weeks as a stand-in with a friend's band, and it wasn't until I got the word that I was getting to play that it struck me what a big deal that is for me personally.

Good luck in the quest, man.

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 04:41 PM

Wow thats crazy Id be honored to even see Agent Orange live the surf stuff off living in darkness really peaked my interest for surf when i started playing guitar and when I started my current band one of the first and only covers we started playing was Bloodstains which is a personal favorite of mine. I play a gretsch duo jet so ive been trying different distortions and overdrives would love to know what he used though

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 04:43 PM

By the way whats the name of the band you are playing in?

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 06:14 PM

One of my old bands played a show with Agent Orange back in 1987. If memory serves me correctly, the guitarist of Agent Orange was using a Gibson SG through a Marshall amp, either a JCM 800 or a JMP. Although dont quote me on that, it was a long time ago.

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Chippertheripper

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 06:24 PM

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:09 PM

Is there some sort of pedal that could get me close to that tone I play a gretsch duo jet through a fender blues junior a very far stretch from an sg and a marshall haha

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:10 PM

I got something similar in style to living in darkness here https://www.facebook.com/frundmragone/videos/1039438532765499/?pnref=story

Last edited: Feb 05, 2016 19:12:06

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Surf_Skater

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:49 PM

I'm probably wrong. But to me it sounds like there is a little bit of phase on some of the songs on Living in Darkness.

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Chippertheripper

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:58 PM

frundmragone wrote:

Is there some sort of pedal that could get me close to that tone I play a gretsch duo jet through a fender blues junior a very far stretch from an sg and a marshall haha

A Marshall in a box, you say???
Catalinbread dirty little secret is the first to come to mind. That's not on the cheaper side of things. But yes. There's lots of Marshall in a box variants out there.

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 05 2016 10:45 PM

Yess I knew there was some sort of phaser I dont know if it was in the post production stages but its definitely there

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Richard

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Posted on Feb 06 2016 04:51 AM

frundmragone wrote:

By the way whats the name of the band you are playing in?

MadScientist (Jamie) and I will be playing with El Capitan and The Band With No Name at The Earl in Atlanta on Feb 20th, opening up for Agent Orange. I'm pretty stoked.

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frundmragone

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Posted on Feb 06 2016 10:07 AM

Thats awesome!

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MPoppitt

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Posted on Feb 06 2016 10:30 AM

He used single pickup SGs back in the day. Definitely Marshall 800 tightness. I think that chorus/phase thing was put on at the time of the mix in stereo. I think a chorus pedal on a mild, slow setting, after your 'Marshall-in-a-box' pedal would get you close. I would try an EHX small clone. The old Marshall Drivemasters are great for that tight, focused marshall thing..

One of my very favorite records.

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frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 10:55 AM does anyone know how to get the guitar tone off the first agent orange album Living In Darkness? I've been trying and trying and I just cant get that tone he gets on miserlou is there a pedal or something that would succeed in getting that surf punk tone heard all over the album? Top
ArabSpringReverb Joined: Jul 13, 2012 Posts: 490 San Diego CA	Posted on Feb 05 2016 11:28 AM I think Mike is on this site from time to time...best to ask him directly Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 11:43 AM do you know like how to contact him or something Id love to pick his brain on a few things Top
Richard Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1683 Georgia	Posted on Feb 05 2016 02:09 PM Maybe Facebook? He seems pretty active. — The Mystery Men? El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists SSS Agent #31 Top
killbabykill34 Joined: Apr 03, 2010 Posts: 3201 Jacksonville, AL	Posted on Feb 05 2016 03:21 PM He is all over Facebook. But he doesn't seem to be very responsive to people on there. I would throw the question on his wall and see what happens. — THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary. www.thekbk.com http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/ www.reverbnation.com/thekbk www.facebook.com/thekbkal Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 03:32 PM I tried but you cant really post to his wall ive been waiting on his friend request for months Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 03:33 PM I really dont know how he gets that great biting tone Top
Richard Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1683 Georgia	Posted on Feb 05 2016 04:09 PM Well, I don't really know, but I know how my buddy used to do it in the punk band he had in high school; a bridge humbucker on a solid body guitar into a Boss DS-1 and some amp. I would caution against getting too caught up in nailing it from the recording and just chase the sound in your head. You get as close as you can, and after that it's all about you selling it. The friend I refer to is no longer on this plane, but if I remember correctly he taught me the very first song that anyone taught me how to play and played with me, which was 'Bloodstains' off of 'Living in Darkness.' His band covered it and because of that it was one of the first ten punk albums I ever bought. That it was "surf" punk and actually had some rodded up surf tunes on it was pure joy. I am actually getting to open for Agent Orange in a few weeks as a stand-in with a friend's band, and it wasn't until I got the word that I was getting to play that it struck me what a big deal that is for me personally. Good luck in the quest, man. — The Mystery Men? El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists SSS Agent #31 Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 04:41 PM Wow thats crazy Id be honored to even see Agent Orange live the surf stuff off living in darkness really peaked my interest for surf when i started playing guitar and when I started my current band one of the first and only covers we started playing was Bloodstains which is a personal favorite of mine. I play a gretsch duo jet so ive been trying different distortions and overdrives would love to know what he used though Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 04:43 PM By the way whats the name of the band you are playing in? Top
psychonaut Joined: Dec 08, 2007 Posts: 1304	Posted on Feb 05 2016 06:14 PM One of my old bands played a show with Agent Orange back in 1987. If memory serves me correctly, the guitarist of Agent Orange was using a Gibson SG through a Marshall amp, either a JCM 800 or a JMP. Although dont quote me on that, it was a long time ago. — https://www.facebook.com/coffindagger http://coffindaggers.com/ http://thecoffindaggers.bandcamp.com Top
Chippertheripper Joined: Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 819 Semass	Posted on Feb 05 2016 06:24 PM Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:09 PM Is there some sort of pedal that could get me close to that tone I play a gretsch duo jet through a fender blues junior a very far stretch from an sg and a marshall haha Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:10 PM I got something similar in style to living in darkness here https://www.facebook.com/frundmragone/videos/1039438532765499/?pnref=story Last edited: Feb 05, 2016 19:12:06 Top
Surf_Skater Joined: Sep 06, 2012 Posts: 1300 Lawrenceville , GA	Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:49 PM I'm probably wrong. But to me it sounds like there is a little bit of phase on some of the songs on Living in Darkness. Top
Chippertheripper Joined: Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 819 Semass	Posted on Feb 05 2016 07:58 PM frundmragone wrote: Is there some sort of pedal that could get me close to that tone I play a gretsch duo jet through a fender blues junior a very far stretch from an sg and a marshall haha A Marshall in a box, you say??? Catalinbread dirty little secret is the first to come to mind. That's not on the cheaper side of things. But yes. There's lots of Marshall in a box variants out there. Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 05 2016 10:45 PM Yess I knew there was some sort of phaser I dont know if it was in the post production stages but its definitely there Top
Richard Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1683 Georgia	Posted on Feb 06 2016 04:51 AM frundmragone wrote: By the way whats the name of the band you are playing in? MadScientist (Jamie) and I will be playing with El Capitan and The Band With No Name at The Earl in Atlanta on Feb 20th, opening up for Agent Orange. I'm pretty stoked. — The Mystery Men? El Capitan and The Reluctant Sadists SSS Agent #31 Top
frundmragone Joined: Apr 17, 2015 Posts: 120	Posted on Feb 06 2016 10:07 AM Thats awesome! Top
MPoppitt Joined: Apr 23, 2006 Posts: 133 Austin TEXAS!	Posted on Feb 06 2016 10:30 AM He used single pickup SGs back in the day. Definitely Marshall 800 tightness. I think that chorus/phase thing was put on at the time of the mix in stereo. I think a chorus pedal on a mild, slow setting, after your 'Marshall-in-a-box' pedal would get you close. I would try an EHX small clone. The old Marshall Drivemasters are great for that tight, focused marshall thing.. One of my very favorite records. — Top

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