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Using Delay w/ a Reverb Tank
Joined: Jul 05, 2006 Posts: 969 
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Posted on Dec 19 2015 01:35 PM
Hey everyone. I was wondering how you get a good mix of delay when using a reverb tank, without over saturation of the sound. I currently have an Ibanez AD-9 Analog and a Gomez G-Spring or a 63 Fender RI. When and how to use incorporate delay? Is it something you keep on subtly in the background or something you use at times to differentiate your sound? what are reasonable settings I should experiment with? Thanks! Last edited: Dec 19, 2015 13:42:18 |
Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4537 Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 19 2015 08:13 PM
I've used it different ways (before I got an echo). Sometimes a simple slap to simulate more drip when I don't want to turn up the tank's Tone knob. Others I've used successfully would be what I consider much-longer-than-true slap interval, then turn the repeats up to get about 3 of them, and only about 9 to 10:00 on the typical mix knob. It will blend with the tank which will smooth out some of the sharpness of the individual repeats. Another thing you can do if using multiple repeats in something intricate is to have the tank's Mix up a bit more than normal. Not alot, but you can usually hear pretty well the 'tone suck' point on the dial. On my '63 RI this was anything above 4; on my Gomez it comes much higher (but it's a different animal & responds much smoother). This rolloff of the bass helps the delay repeats be more subtle & not get in the way of subsequent notes you're playing. (I apply this to approach to my El Capistan echo as well where you can specifically dial in some low-end rolloff - thanks Ivan. I don't have my Carbon Copy anymore, my vintage Arion is near yours in terms of available delay time so that's what I'm basing it on. The Arion has been with me a long time; just a great analog delay, not trying to pretend to be an echo, kinda like your AD-9. Turn knobs, have fun. Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Last edited: Dec 19, 2015 20:16:12 |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Dec 19 2015 08:34 PM
I have a G-Spring and I am using a Belle Epoch these days. I own a Boss Space Echo and JHS Panther Cub but don't use those as the Belle Epoch is perfect. For surfy stuff, I use it with very minimal repeats. I don't want to hear a single repeat, I just want to fatten up the sound. Something that is very possible, like this: https://www.instagram.com/p/_JCr9bMXz8/?taken-by=verbageddon And this isn't surf, but still with the G-Spring. This is where I really want the repeats to be heard and there are actually a lot and they are really loud and the mix is high. https://www.instagram.com/p/_foMFvsX_D/ I'm not doing anything special to the tank, running it where I run it for the 'Verb. Or approximately, I adjust based on how loud I am with the 'Verb. |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4537 Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 19 2015 09:30 PM
Jake, on the Christmas-y thing were you running through the new AC15? —Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. |
Joined: Dec 11, 2013 Posts: 2537 Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 19 2015 09:42 PM
I use the El Capistan and my best surf settings with the tank is where it slaps but is instinguishable as echo. It just gives more depth and fullness to the overall reverb and tone. The Kahuna Kings https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447 https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases Last edited: Dec 19, 2015 21:43:09 |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Dec 19 2015 11:15 PM
Badger wrote:
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Posted on Dec 20 2015 12:23 AM
Jake, this is actually a very cools sound. Somewhere in between Surf and Rautalanka. Last edited: Dec 20, 2015 00:24:09 |
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The difference is that, since I can rolloff the low-end at the pedal, I'm free to do the opposite with the tank & set it how I really want, sometimes with the tank Mix dialed back. )