Pro and Con on Pedalphilia: the Morality and Esthetics of Surf

da-ron

Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1307
The original Plymouth, UK.
United Kingdom

Posted on Feb 17 2015 06:34 AM

Is there a big muff in there?

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Syndicateofsurf

Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
United States

Posted on Feb 17 2015 10:51 AM

da-ron wrote:

Is there a big muff in there?

I live in Plymouth- Ohio! Greetings from across the pond!

I studied the pedal-picture and could not locate the big muff. I did see something that looks like the old Mosrite pedal I have lurking in my basement.

Sad to say it's not what you'd call 'fit'.

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SanchoPansen

Joined: Jan 04, 2011
Posts: 1588
Berlin L-Berg
Germany

Posted on Feb 17 2015 11:11 AM

I think people NOT using any pedals are missing out on something. Sure, you get your sound from your hands, amp, strings, springs, etc. But a nice delay here, some trem there. Why not? And as Simon said, if it had been available at the 1st wave I guess we'd hear a lot of it on the records.
Just imagine U2 without pedals. They are the living proof that over usage of pedals can lead to success - not for surf maybe, but it works. The Edge has a different rig/guitar/board for every measure of their songs

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Syndicateofsurf

Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
United States

Posted on Feb 17 2015 11:25 AM

Here's my BAP (Big-Ass-Pedal). Also a Danelectro Tuna Melt (I think). And all the on/off floor switches to the amps and the recording device.
BTW: If does have a "Muff" setting which I use for 90% of my distortion.
It's just the way I was raised.

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Da Vinci Flinglestein,
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http://sharawaji.com/

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Tuck

Joined: Sep 02, 2006
Posts: 3166
Denver, CO
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Posted on Feb 17 2015 01:34 PM

For what it's worth, the expression "morality" was intended to be tongue in cheek. The only serious word in the title was "esthetics." I'm glad to see so many outspoken pedal lovers. More than that. I'm glad to see that it's a principled, esthetic decision in most cases, not a financial one.

(If the men come to take you to the camp, resist! Although the Sierra Surf Music Camp is supposed to be delightful. If it's that one, pack some pedals and go.)

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JObeast

Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
Turkmenistan

Posted on Feb 17 2015 08:11 PM

pervy pedalslut fetischist.
slopoke wrote:

image

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Surf_Skater

Joined: Sep 06, 2012
Posts: 1300
Lawrenceville , GA
United States

Posted on Feb 17 2015 08:21 PM

I hope there's a couple buffered pedals in there or there will be some loss in the signal.

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shake_n_stomp

Joined: Jan 09, 2014
Posts: 620
Vancouver BC
Canada

Posted on Feb 17 2015 09:00 PM

Surf_Skater wrote:

I hope there's a couple buffered pedals in there or there will be some loss in the signal.

Perhaps the OP could petition Electro-Harmonix to develop a new pedal called the Morality Booster/Buffer. It would have be aesthetically pleasing, however, and it would need to be easily concealed in one's Fender tube reverb unit so that no audience member would be the wiser.

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casey

Joined: May 18, 2006
Posts: 521
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Posted on Feb 18 2015 12:49 AM

I try and make it a point to play around 50% of our songs without effects other than using the amp's built in reverb. Just two effects on my pedalboard: a Yamaha MagicStomp and an old Boss DM-2. Hoping that getting a variety of sounds (including the sound of the guitar straight into the amp) will keep our sound more interesting. In addition there is one of these:
http://www.tonebone.com/loopbone.php
It allows a complete buffered bypass of two different effects loops and sounds just like plugging straight into the amp. Has something called "drag" that helps maintain your tone.
Just saw where Boss is bringing back a new version of the old DM-2.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM2W
It's supposed to be a faithful reproduction of the original with a custom feature that allows more variations. The originals are going for $200-400 on e-bay so the price of $179 looks OK.

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Syndicateofsurf

Joined: Oct 08, 2014
Posts: 1073
Northern Ohio
United States

Posted on Feb 18 2015 08:53 AM

shake_n_stomp wrote:

Surf_Skater wrote:

I hope there's a couple buffered pedals in there or there will be some loss in the signal.

Perhaps the OP could petition Electro-Harmonix to develop a new pedal called the Morality Booster/Buffer. It would have be aesthetically pleasing, however, and it would need to be easily concealed in one's Fender tube reverb unit so that no audience member would be the wiser.

But Leo Fender would know!

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Da Vinci Flinglestein,
The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest

The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube

http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/

http://sharawaji.com/

http://surfrockradio.com/

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da-ron Joined: Jan 02, 2009 Posts: 1307 The original Plymouth, UK.	Posted on Feb 17 2015 06:34 AM Is there a big muff in there? — http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/ Top
Syndicateofsurf Joined: Oct 08, 2014 Posts: 1073 Northern Ohio	Posted on Feb 17 2015 10:51 AM da-ron wrote: Is there a big muff in there? I live in Plymouth- Ohio! Greetings from across the pond! I studied the pedal-picture and could not locate the big muff. I did see something that looks like the old Mosrite pedal I have lurking in my basement. Sad to say it's not what you'd call 'fit'. — Da Vinci Flinglestein, The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/ http://sharawaji.com/ http://surfrockradio.com/ Top
SanchoPansen Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg	Posted on Feb 17 2015 11:11 AM I think people NOT using any pedals are missing out on something. Sure, you get your sound from your hands, amp, strings, springs, etc. But a nice delay here, some trem there. Why not? And as Simon said, if it had been available at the 1st wave I guess we'd hear a lot of it on the records. Just imagine U2 without pedals. They are the living proof that over usage of pedals can lead to success - not for surf maybe, but it works. The Edge has a different rig/guitar/board for every measure of their songs — The Hicadoolas Top
Syndicateofsurf Joined: Oct 08, 2014 Posts: 1073 Northern Ohio	Posted on Feb 17 2015 11:25 AM Here's my BAP (Big-Ass-Pedal). Also a Danelectro Tuna Melt (I think). And all the on/off floor switches to the amps and the recording device. BTW: If does have a "Muff" setting which I use for 90% of my distortion. It's just the way I was raised. — Da Vinci Flinglestein, The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/ http://sharawaji.com/ http://surfrockradio.com/ Top
Tuck Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO	Posted on Feb 17 2015 01:34 PM For what it's worth, the expression "morality" was intended to be tongue in cheek. The only serious word in the title was "esthetics." I'm glad to see so many outspoken pedal lovers. More than that. I'm glad to see that it's a principled, esthetic decision in most cases, not a financial one. (If the men come to take you to the camp, resist! Although the Sierra Surf Music Camp is supposed to be delightful. If it's that one, pack some pedals and go.) Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Feb 17 2015 08:11 PM pervy pedalslut fetischist. slopoke wrote: image — Squink Out! Last edited: Feb 17, 2015 20:14:15 Top
Surf_Skater Joined: Sep 06, 2012 Posts: 1300 Lawrenceville , GA	Posted on Feb 17 2015 08:21 PM I hope there's a couple buffered pedals in there or there will be some loss in the signal. Top
shake_n_stomp Joined: Jan 09, 2014 Posts: 620 Vancouver BC	Posted on Feb 17 2015 09:00 PM Surf_Skater wrote: I hope there's a couple buffered pedals in there or there will be some loss in the signal. Perhaps the OP could petition Electro-Harmonix to develop a new pedal called the Morality Booster/Buffer. It would have be aesthetically pleasing, however, and it would need to be easily concealed in one's Fender tube reverb unit so that no audience member would be the wiser. — Lorne The Surf Shakers: https://www.facebook.com/TheSurfShakers Vancouver BC Canada Top
casey Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 521	Posted on Feb 18 2015 12:49 AM I try and make it a point to play around 50% of our songs without effects other than using the amp's built in reverb. Just two effects on my pedalboard: a Yamaha MagicStomp and an old Boss DM-2. Hoping that getting a variety of sounds (including the sound of the guitar straight into the amp) will keep our sound more interesting. In addition there is one of these: http://www.tonebone.com/loopbone.php It allows a complete buffered bypass of two different effects loops and sounds just like plugging straight into the amp. Has something called "drag" that helps maintain your tone. Just saw where Boss is bringing back a new version of the old DM-2. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DM2W It's supposed to be a faithful reproduction of the original with a custom feature that allows more variations. The originals are going for $200-400 on e-bay so the price of $179 looks OK. Top
Syndicateofsurf Joined: Oct 08, 2014 Posts: 1073 Northern Ohio	Posted on Feb 18 2015 08:53 AM shake_n_stomp wrote: Surf_Skater wrote: I hope there's a couple buffered pedals in there or there will be some loss in the signal. Perhaps the OP could petition Electro-Harmonix to develop a new pedal called the Morality Booster/Buffer. It would have be aesthetically pleasing, however, and it would need to be easily concealed in one's Fender tube reverb unit so that no audience member would be the wiser. But Leo Fender would know! — Da Vinci Flinglestein, The quest for the Tone, the tone of the Quest The Syndicate of Surf on YouTube http://www.syndicateofsurf.com/ http://sharawaji.com/ http://surfrockradio.com/ Top

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