MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
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Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 11:37 PM
The Ventures were incredibly important to me growing up. I'm starting a music project and I recently recorded a cover of Diamond Head... one of my favorites.
Hope you enjoy:
Mantis Rex - Diamond Head
— https://soundcloud.com/mantisrex
Youtube
Download my rock cover of Diamond Head
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Supercompdad
Joined: Jun 17, 2012
Posts: 132
West Central Illinois
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 12:03 AM
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LittleKahunaCraig
Joined: Jan 09, 2008
Posts: 386
Orange County, CA
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 03:56 AM
Why all the distortion?
— Craig Skelly
Little Kahuna
www.littlekahunamusic.com
The Breakaways
The Curl Riders
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MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
Posts: 38
Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 08:39 AM
Well, my other love is psychedelic rock, haha.
Basically to add my own thing to it. I hold the opinion that a cover song should be the original song's writing filtered through the style of the person playing it.
Why do a cover song that sounds exactly like the original?
— https://soundcloud.com/mantisrex
Youtube
Download my rock cover of Diamond Head
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 10:52 AM
Very well-played, aggressive version.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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CrashHardtop
Joined: Jun 14, 2012
Posts: 152
Meridian, Idaho
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 12:09 PM
Sounds great. I like the distortion--makes the lead stand out from the backround playing more.
— More cowbell?? Nah...More Reverb!!
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wfoguy
Joined: Dec 11, 2011
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Posted on Oct 24 2014 08:57 AM
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MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
Posts: 38
Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Oct 24 2014 11:21 AM
Thanks guys!
I put the download link in the description. I'd love to pop up on shuffle sometime!
— https://soundcloud.com/mantisrex
Youtube
Download my rock cover of Diamond Head
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JohnnyMosrite
Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 903
New York City area
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Posted on Oct 25 2014 09:28 AM
Mantis,
Played it through once - an extremely painful listen. But to each his own.
Pick and strum on..
J Mo'
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MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
Posts: 38
Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Oct 25 2014 10:33 AM
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2537
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Oct 25 2014 10:51 AM
Great playing on that recording man! Very reminiscent of Gary Hoey surf. Wah wah pedals kinda kills the whole surf vibe for me but that's just me and not a reflection on the work you put into your recording. Rock on!
— The Kahuna Kings
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447
https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases
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MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
Posts: 38
Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Oct 25 2014 11:55 AM
I appreciate that, man. Yeah I was going for a more aggressive, psych-ish, hard rock rendition than a surfy cover. Thanks for listening
— https://soundcloud.com/mantisrex
Youtube
Download my rock cover of Diamond Head
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JohnnyMosrite
Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 903
New York City area
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Posted on Oct 25 2014 01:07 PM
Mantis,
"Sucks to hear that with nothing constructive."
?? Sure there was.. I said
"But to each his own." I also said "pick and strum on." That's two positive sentences out of the three I posted.
See?
J Mo'
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MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
Posts: 38
Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Oct 26 2014 04:24 AM
Well when you say that my recording was not only "painful", but "extremely painful", that's a powerful statement. Those are strong words. You're discounting the effort that I put into this recording and not offering any constructive feedback about what it is you didn't like, what could be better, etc. Was it the mix? Who knows, I might agree with you.
My guess is that you're not a fan of the style in which it's played and you might have been expecting more of a traditional surf cover... which is fine. I wasn't going for a carbon copy of the original and admittedly I was making an effort to do something different. You just have to be careful when you word things so strongly but don't offer any constructive, in-depth feedback about what you specifically didn't like and just end it with "I fucking hated that. But keep strumming dude!" There's nothing constructive about that.
— https://soundcloud.com/mantisrex
Youtube
Download my rock cover of Diamond Head
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2537
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Oct 26 2014 07:09 AM
Surf is a funny thing Mantis. Some on here have heard and played it their entire lives and some who have stumbled onto it coming from different genre's like me. The deeper you go into it the more it can transform your whole worldview as far as what music really means to you. To give you an example I have become this kind of "anti-vocal music" dick when it comes to vocal based rock music. It's hard for me to listen to music where the vocal track is the focal point of the entire song. There is so much music centered around someone trying to tell a story vocally that you just plain don't relate to and you can't even understand and may not even be done well. I hear multitudes of songs where the vocal track kills the flow of the music so that someone can whine about something. I compare that sound to the sound of a great surf guitarist playing a a lead melody with a pristine chime drenched in reverb, That tells a story the whole world can relate to in any language. It can be a very purest based genre because the deeper you go into it the more of that surf based sound you crave.
This sound I listen to and try to create is an addiction for me at this point. It's a form of non-spoken communication that has given me a whole new vision of what music is to me and how I may be able to communicate that vision to the world on a whole new musical level.
Embrace the surf and welcome to the machine but be warned. As David Gilmour once said, "there's no way out of here when you come in your in for good".
— The Kahuna Kings
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kahuna-Kings/459752090818447
https://thekahunakings.bandcamp.com/releases
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JohnnyMosrite
Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 903
New York City area
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Posted on Oct 26 2014 07:58 AM
Mantis,
You posted the vid.. indirectly asked for forum members critique. I gave you mine. I didn't ask if you wanted feedback straight up or sugar coated - my fault.
As for your "effort" - if your efforts result in something someone doesn't like, and they tell you straight up they didn't like it (at your request) - well welcome to the world. And that can happen no matter how much "effort" you put in. If Clapton or Page asked me what I thought of their "efforts", I'd give them the same answer. Of course, that won't happen they could care less anyway. Fans of both would disagree with me; that's what makes for a diverse world with diverse tastes.
Perhaps watch out for what you ask for? You may well get it.
All meant in a positive light, of course
J Mo'
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Louie7
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
Posts: 448
50,000 Light-Years Beyond Planet Claire
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Posted on Oct 26 2014 01:29 PM
What's all the fuss ?
I listened to it. Here's MY 'opinion', wanted or not.
The arrangement is true to the original - good.
It's not a photo image of the Ventures - good.
It has some reverb in it - good.
The little 'whip-whips' are there - good.
The playing and drumming has fire and love - good.
There's a surf picture to look at - good.
Anyone who doesn't like this, probably doesn't like Davey Allen and the Arrows either. There's plenty of 'fuzzy' Ventures tracks. The wah-wah isn't really over used...it works, somehow.
I see (hear) exactly where Mantis is going with this effort.
My only remark in the negative would be that I hear nothing in this song that seems 'psyche', (aka: psychedelic). Distortion and wah-wah doesn't automatically make a song 'psyche', IMHO.
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Oct 27 2014 07:56 AM
I didn't ask this earlier. The "whip-whips" as Louie7 calls them, I've always wondered what they represented in Diamond Head? They always struck me as out of place and a distraction. You dramatically changed the sound and feel of this song in your version, Mantis, I'm just curious why you left these in unchanged?
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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MantisRex_
Joined: Oct 22, 2014
Posts: 38
Eastern Seaboard
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Posted on Oct 27 2014 10:55 AM
The "whip-whips" always made me think of tropical island birds and gave it a sort of fun, islandy, surfy...dare I say "cartoonish"... sound in my opinion. It made Diamond Head unique to me so I didn't want to make it a point to remove them as I still wanted it to sound like a surf song, just done differently.
Thanks for the words Louie! I originally wasn't going to use the wah-wah at all because Wah is a tricky road to walk down. It's so easy to overuse so I tried to add it just a little bit to add some "bells and whistles" so to speak; some extra expression on certain notes, etc. Glad to hear the feedback that it was used just enough, that's something I was concerned about after it was already recorded.
And Johnny, we are way far off from my original comment about "not constructive." I think you're confusing the words "constructive" and "positive." I didn't say that because you didn't like it, that would be gross, immature and ugly of me. By "constructive" I meant that you didn't say why you didn't like it. I'm just gonna assume you didn't like it overall and didn't isolate which elements of the song you found distasteful. It's alright, I really wasn't expecting it to spiral into this kind of back and forth Again, thank you for listening. Some people I know in real life didn't even take the time.
— https://soundcloud.com/mantisrex
Youtube
Download my rock cover of Diamond Head
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montereyjack66
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LA -ish
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Posted on Oct 28 2014 12:26 AM
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