Mike75
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Hong Kong
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 04:13 AM
I had a long debate with our guitarist last night about the intro to surf rider. He is having trouble playing the intro, as he is using hammer ons on some notes, which is distorting the rhythm.
We have both listened to the recording thousands of times. I think the notes are picked. He thinks they couldn't be anything other than hammer ons.
We are trying to capture the mood and feel of the track exactly. Can some kind sg101ers help settle this argument?
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ElBirkerio
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Vienna
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 04:53 AM
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Surf_Skater
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Lawrenceville , GA
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 04:57 AM
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stratdancer
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 05:04 AM
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Number9
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 05:09 AM
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
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Guildford England
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 06:52 AM
He's playing it a bit laid back here. I think the original has shorter timed notes.
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Number9
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 04:18 PM
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Number9
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 04:46 PM
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horax
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colorado springs
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 10:56 PM
Pick...I use a pick. Needs snappiness.
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Louie7
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Posts: 448
50,000 Light-Years Beyond Planet Claire
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Posted on Oct 22 2014 11:07 PM
It's both picked notes AND hammer-ons. The hammer-on's are not the problem...the problem is the guitarists sense of feel for the riff.
Last edited: Oct 26, 2014 12:25:26
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BillyBlastOff
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Ventura County, Calif.
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 02:00 AM
Check this cat out. The video is pretty funny, but the ole' geezer can play! ;D
http://youtu.be/E8RA2GvyVX4
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HallmarkSweptWinger
Joined: Jul 27, 2006
Posts: 1284
Berlinesia, Germanifornia
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 02:27 AM
BillyBlastOff wrote:
Check this cat out. The video is pretty funny, but the ole' geezer can play! ;D
http://youtu.be/E8RA2GvyVX4
Uuuuuuhhh!!!!
This is way toooo much Shadows for me!
This has got nothing to do with the coolness of the Lively Ones original.
TOTALLY boring for me. Music for old men, sorry…
This is not the future of surf music at all.
Brrrrrrrr!!!!!!
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ElBirkerio
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Posts: 519
Vienna
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 05:15 AM
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BillyBlastOff
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 1070
Ventura County, Calif.
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 08:33 AM
Lol! I especially like the part where he tries to plug his guitar cord into his mini Strat floatin' on a boogie board with his amp and sunglasses. Classic!
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BillyBlastOff
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 1070
Ventura County, Calif.
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 08:29 PM
HallmarkSweptWinger wrote:
BillyBlastOff wrote:
Check this cat out. The video is pretty funny, but the ole' geezer can play! ;D
http://youtu.be/E8RA2GvyVX4
Uuuuuuhhh!!!!
This is way toooo much Shadows for me!
This has got nothing to do with the coolness of the Lively Ones original.
TOTALLY boring for me. Music for old men, sorry…
This is not the future of surf music at all.
Brrrrrrrr!!!!!!
Here ya go Ralf. These guys suck even worse! Ha ha!
http://youtu.be/ZTshfHaykvs
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Supercompdad
Joined: Jun 17, 2012
Posts: 132
West Central Illinois
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Posted on Oct 23 2014 09:53 PM
I played it pretty well until all youse guys got me thinking about it, now I suck. Jeez.
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Rich
Joined: Jan 20, 2013
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Posted on Oct 26 2014 08:58 AM
Drumsdick and I did it a while ago and I cut out the original intro altogether. Call it freedom of speech. I never liked it. Also added Fender improv around the original theme. Quite popular on YouTube. Search "richman surf rider" for ideas.
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Mike75
Joined: Jul 28, 2013
Posts: 220
Hong Kong
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Posted on Nov 07 2014 02:35 AM
Number9 wrote:
And it would be very appropriate to use your thumb also.
The especially interesting thing about this song is the bass part imo.
I totally agree. I found a great bass cover of surf rider on youtube but haven't found any tab transcriptions yet. Any pointers on that?
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Mike75
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Hong Kong
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Posted on Nov 07 2014 03:06 AM
Number9 wrote:
Mike75 wrote:
We are trying to capture the mood and feel of the track exactly.
Congratulations for that.
That's always been a big deal, but it's very MUCH easier than playing ...awesome originals!
The awesome originals may some months off, but we are working on it. Mood and feel, and dare I say it tone are really important for us as our own songs are actually quite simplistic. Surf Rider is one of those tracks that aside from any connotations with a movie - just oozes mood and feel.
So aside from the learning process of playing a good cover, note for note, we are really thinking about the feel. We hope that in the future this will transfer to our own songs. Where we are based in HK, there are a lot of import cover bands that take shortcuts with simplified versions and we don't want to set the bar that low. Someone told me a while back that if a guitarist focused on learning to cover a song well, including the intricacies of the song they would probably write better songs. There are plenty of shoddy original songs out there.
I'm lucky in that I am working with an awesome guitarist who can usually replicate things note for note. Surf Rider has him stumped though, probably because the first time I played it I was rushing through the song and he copied that.
All of the tab I have seen has the notes on the a string hammered on, so we will probably agree to use the hammer ons. Thanks to everyone that responded. I liked every one that was posted. I couldn't find the Jon and the Nightriders version online, so here is the nearest I could find.
http://youtu.be/IEa4IQ13c7M
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Green_Meanie
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Michigan
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Posted on Nov 07 2014 05:41 AM
I use this tab: http://www.guitaretab.com/l/lively-ones/10664.html and the backing track from the download section here. I pick all the notes, except the "and 3" count; indicated by 5p7, 3p5, and 1p3 in the tab itself. It definitely softens things just a little, and sounds pretty good to my ears.
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