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Whammy while picking - What do we call it?

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DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11050 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:01 AM Ted posed the question spskins What about when you pick a melody while holding the whammy bar? Does that have a name? Any takers? — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
WR Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:08 AM wouldn't you be playing with a loose vibrato? I propose we call it "playing with a loose vibrato" — Rules to live by #314: "When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is." https://www.facebook.com/The-Malbehavers-286429584796173/ Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19276 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:10 AM Marvinizing. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11050 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:12 AM WR wouldn't you be playing with a loose vibrato? I propose we call it "playing with a loose vibrato" — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
WR Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:24 AM Brian Marvinizing. can we call the wiggle stick Marvinizer too? — Rules to live by #314: "When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is." https://www.facebook.com/The-Malbehavers-286429584796173/ Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3770 tn	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:43 AM Brian Marvinizing. I like that. — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
dwgregory1 Joined: Oct 30, 2006 Posts: 118 Baltimore, MD	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:59 AM I like wiggle stick, we could call this wiggle picking and just do away with that 'proper' word vibrato all together! Top
WR Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands	Posted on Apr 10 2007 09:11 AM Ill stick to Marvinizer! Ill also be using a DaleRun for the ultimate trempicked glissando, "astronautificate the drum part" for using that bumping around on the snare thing, and "Patricate the rhythm" for absurdly fast strumming. Im still considering "Pilgrimification" for surfstyle "wall of Sound" production and "pulling a Klas" for staying completly and utterly trad. and obviously, "wronskifying" means play it twice as loud and triple as fast. — Rules to live by #314: "When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is." https://www.facebook.com/The-Malbehavers-286429584796173/ Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11050 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 09:39 AM WR Ill stick to Marvinizer! Ill also be using a DaleRun for the ultimate trempicked glissando, "astronautificate the drum part" for using that bumping around on the snare thing, and "Patricate the rhythm" for absurdly fast strumming. Im still considering "Pilgrimification" for surfstyle "wall of Sound" production and "pulling a Klas" for staying completly and utterly trad. and obviously, "wronskifying" means play it twice as loud and triple as fast. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
Surfgitar Joined: Mar 16, 2007 Posts: 1342 Ft. Lauderdale, Florida	Posted on Apr 10 2007 09:53 AM I've never seen Jeff Beck's hand leave his tremelo bar when playing. So maybe it's Beckelo? — CUTBACK Top
badash Joined: Aug 18, 2006 Posts: 1732	Posted on Apr 10 2007 10:20 AM Depends... Either "Dippin'" if I'm playing something like "sleepwalk" and starting with the note flat and bringing it up to pitch (bar down, and bringing it up to normal position smoothly), or like Gregory "wigglin'" if I'm... well... wiggling the bar rythmically. A little "wigglin'" at the end of a "dip" is standard of course Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Apr 10 2007 10:23 AM What are we going to call strumming while playing guitar with a pick in your right hand? I vote we call it "The Dob". Top
brukout Joined: Mar 28, 2007 Posts: 29	Posted on Apr 10 2007 10:24 AM hanking off — www.myspace.com/killsomefuckingtime Top
JetBlue Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 746 Cool, CA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 10:41 AM JakeDobner What are we going to call strumming while playing guitar with a pick in your right hand? I vote we call it "The Dob". I was gonna use that for bleeding on your guitar. I guess we can use "Jake" for that... "Dude, I Jaked all over my pickguard". — Don Top
dwgregory1 Joined: Oct 30, 2006 Posts: 118 Baltimore, MD	Posted on Apr 10 2007 10:43 AM JetBlue JakeDobner What are we going to call strumming while playing guitar with a pick in your right hand? I vote we call it "The Dob". I was gonna use that for bleeding on your guitar. I guess we can use "Jake" for that... "Dude, I Jaked all over my pickguard". Hm...wondering what people would think if I told them I 'Jaked all over my pickguard.' Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3770 tn	Posted on Apr 10 2007 11:21 AM badash Depends... Either "Dippin'" if I'm playing something like "sleepwalk" and starting with the note flat and bringing it up to pitch (bar down, and bringing it up to normal position smoothly), or like Gregory "wigglin'" if I'm... well... wiggling the bar rythmically. A little "wigglin'" at the end of a "dip" is standard of course To clarify, it's not tremming it after the note is truck and sustaining. It's playing a full melody line (usually a quick one without a lot of space between the notes) with the whammy bar held in the picking hand, so it naturally moves and bends notes because of the picking hand's movements (like Hank Marvin or Jim Masoner). — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
IronMaiden Joined: Nov 02, 2006 Posts: 564 Virginia Beach	Posted on Apr 10 2007 11:37 AM spskins To clarify, it's not tremming it after the note is truck and sustaining. It's playing a full melody line (usually a quick one without a lot of space between the notes) with the whammy bar held in the picking hand, so it naturally moves and bends notes because of the picking hand's movements (like Hank Marvin or Jim Masoner). That is a sweet technique. Kind of like a pitch shifter on a keytar or something. The notes get all weirded out. Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11050 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 11:51 AM It's especially sweet when double or triple stopping IMHO — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1488 Redlands, CA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 11:55 AM I would call it Hanking.... Joel Top
badash Joined: Aug 18, 2006 Posts: 1732	Posted on Apr 10 2007 12:17 PM spskins badash Depends... Either "Dippin'" if I'm playing something like "sleepwalk" and starting with the note flat and bringing it up to pitch (bar down, and bringing it up to normal position smoothly), or like Gregory "wigglin'" if I'm... well... wiggling the bar rythmically. A little "wigglin'" at the end of a "dip" is standard of course To clarify, it's not tremming it after the note is truck and sustaining. It's playing a full melody line (usually a quick one without a lot of space between the notes) with the whammy bar held in the picking hand, so it naturally moves and bends notes because of the picking hand's movements (like Hank Marvin or Jim Masoner). Then it's dippin' for me! Mine is more of a deliberate slight depression of the bar before striking the notes, letting the notes come up to pitch before they die rather than just an artifact of hand motion. J. Mascis of Dinosaur Jr. does this alot in a less deliberate more "natural" way on his Jazzmasters if you are looking for a non surf contemporary example. Top

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