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surfneptune Joined: Mar 16, 2006 Posts: 923	Posted on Apr 05 2007 04:45 PM Sorry mr Dale... I have heard it in Gypsy Jazz, done by Django.... sounds like one-note-one-pick when he did it. — THe NEpTuNeS Top
MikeG Joined: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 309 Springfield, Oregon	Posted on Apr 05 2007 09:35 PM I always called it a "Pipeline". Top
djangodeadman Joined: Jan 25, 2007 Posts: 1568 Brighton UK	Posted on Apr 06 2007 02:32 AM Stormtiger P.S. Wikipedia authors are often high. I agree and I am the first person to have serious doubts about Wikipedia, but if their definition is anywhere near correct, the pitch would have to change without the picking to be a true glissando. Anybody using an Ebow for surf? I wouldn't exactly describe Los Fantasticos as classically surf, but we're working on a tune right now that features e-bow. — Los Fantasticos Top
Tuck Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO	Posted on Apr 06 2007 09:52 PM Brian P.S. Wikipedia authors are often high. And sometimes pretty low, too. The Chuck Berry article is an example of the latter, at points. But, seriously, one of y'all should just go in there and edit the definition of glissando to include the teke teke teke "staccato run" thing. The main qualification for being a Wikipedia editor is having an Internet connection. Last edited: Apr 07, 2007 18:42:28 Top
Tuck Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO	Posted on Apr 06 2007 10:02 PM brukout when you slide down ...? Not to suggest that you intended down in any specific directional sense, Brukout, but I'm pretty sure I've heard down, up, and both directions (alternately). Incidentally, the would be Wiki-ed(s), should check around while they're there. There are a lot of weaknesses in Wikipedia vis-a-vis surf music. Check out the reverberation article. Look in vain for double picking. Look (also in vain) under tank (disambiguation). Last edited: Apr 07, 2007 18:47:08 Top
Tuck Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO	Posted on Apr 07 2007 06:40 PM surfneptune Sorry Mr Dale... I have heard it in Gypsy Jazz, done by Django.... Beats my counter example. I was going to say Bo Diddley. I think it's on the bass in Bo Diddley. The effect is not quite the same. I think the bass in early Bo Diddley is Willie Dixon on the upright. I'm pretty sure I've heard Bo do it on the lead, too, but I may be remembering something in a cover. The longer glissandos in Road Runner sound like scraping with the pick to me. Top
Sonichris Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 1905 Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies	Posted on Apr 07 2007 07:09 PM PolloGuitar Japanese translation: "Teke Teke Teke" --ferenc I've also heard "Deke-Deke-Deke" Chris — "You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been" Top
wooza Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY	Posted on Apr 07 2007 09:13 PM I've got a follow-up "what's it called" question: What's the term for when a guitarist double picks on one string, intermittently hammering on notes and then playing the open string really fast? Off the top of my head, I know it's been done in the Madeira's "Ricochet" and is probably most pronounced in Slacktone's versions of Miserlou. Does that even have a name? Top
SonnyD Joined: Apr 02, 2007 Posts: 11 Overland Park, Kansas	Posted on Apr 09 2007 07:54 AM MikeG I always called it a "Pipeline". Hey,.......Me too! Regards Sonny — Sonny Dryer Sonny and the Sunrays "I live for the Sun" Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1503 Redlands, CA	Posted on Apr 09 2007 11:59 AM wooza> What's the term for when a guitarist double picks on one string, intermittently hammering on notes and then playing the open string really fast? I think that is called an eddie van halen. Joel Top
wooza Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY	Posted on Apr 09 2007 12:27 PM Joelman I think that is called an eddie van halen. Eeew. Let's rename that. Top
Wraydar Joined: Apr 21, 2006 Posts: 265 San Antonio, TX	Posted on Apr 09 2007 06:07 PM If you say Teke Teke Teke really fast it actually kinda sounds like it. — <img src="klzzwxh:0000"></img> Top
wooza Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY	Posted on Apr 09 2007 07:07 PM Wraydar If you say Teke Teke Teke really fast it actually kinda sounds like it. I was thinking glissandos (or, "Dick Dales") sounded like that: TEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKE. . . What I'm talking about sounds more like this: TEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKETEKE. . . I'm sure I've made myself perfectly clear. Is there a technical term for that second one? Top
Tuck Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO	Posted on Apr 09 2007 08:24 PM Wraydar If you say Teke Teke Teke really fast it actually kinda sounds like it. Yep. You essentially leave out the vowels or reduce them to the one in just of "just a minute." It's something about the human vocal tract or ear. Notice everyone who goes with the sound comes up with something like that: teke teke teke (Japanese) deke deke deke (Deke's fans) drdr... duurrrghh! (DW Gregory) It's the same sort of phenomenon that leads people to hear consonants and vowels in bird song. I have a nice explanation of teke teke ... in terms of acoustic phonetics, but let's give that one a miss! As far as the thing Wooza is referring to, and I recognized it as soon as I heard the description - thinking "like Wronski in Miserlou" as I was reading his examples - well, no idea what you call it. I'm pretty sure I've heard other people do it. How about the start of the Honkeys' Good/Evil on War of the Surf Guitars? No idea what you call it. I bet it's as old as guitars or older. Top
spskins Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3785 tn	Posted on Apr 09 2007 09:26 PM What about when you pick a melody while holding the whammy bar? Does that have a name? — http://www.satanspilgrims.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553 https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/ http://www.surfyindustries.com Top
IronMaiden Joined: Nov 02, 2006 Posts: 564 Virginia Beach	Posted on Apr 09 2007 09:29 PM wooza I've got a follow-up "what's it called" question: What's the term for when a guitarist double picks on one string, intermittently hammering on notes and then playing the open string really fast? Off the top of my head, I know it's been done in the Madeira's "Ricochet" and is probably most pronounced in Slacktone's versions of Miserlou. Does that even have a name? Hey man, not sure if what your referring to is the same but Im thinking the intro lick to Iron Maiden's 'wasted years'. Whatever it is, I'm sure Paganini et al. were doing it a long time ago. Top
CaptainSpringfield Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 4387 Under the Sun	Posted on Apr 10 2007 12:54 AM wooza What's the term for when a guitarist double picks on one string, intermittently hammering on notes and then playing the open string really fast? Off the top of my head, I know it's been done in the Madeira's "Ricochet" and is probably most pronounced in Slacktone's versions of Miserlou. Does that even have a name? Since the open note stays constant, wouldn't it be considered pedal point? -Warren — That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it. Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 07:54 AM I've heard the terms "pedal point", "pedaling" as well as "drone". Townsend does that a lot too. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11062 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 07:59 AM spskins What about when you pick a melody while holding the whammy bar? Does that have a name? I bet that doesn't have a name, but we could come up with one. Let's start a thread on that. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Apr 10 2007 08:01 AM spskins What about when you pick a melody while holding the whammy bar? Does that have a name? Hank Marvining? — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top

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