JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Apr 28 2016 05:18 PM
Reality is overrated, so say the subatomic physicists: The Case Against Reality - Atlantic Magazine.EJ wrote:
JakeDobner wrote:
Billy_Apple wrote:
Fair enough. But Spitfire uses this (and many other) forums for his free advertising and marketing platform. I think it's only fair that you get a range of opinions.
A good point! He was pretty aggressive in marketing here and has only posted advertising for his own business. Also, if you are going to call your work art and say it is the 'best' then I do believe you leave yourself open to criticism.
I think it's all about "viral Marketing" these days right? Especially with the 30 something's that appear to to know everything. I would say his marketing is not aggressive at all really, just kind of more like hey I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours of making accurate tort that resembles the originals better than what's mass produced, for people who give a shit, It as art, and he has done it out of passion to give enthusiasts a viable upgrade to their zen of aesthetics on their guitars.Its a very limited market. Most people don't have the fortune of owning fine vintage guitars like Jake.. Like most artists he's not really making "money" from his craft on these. Please show some respect for people who actually produce something in 3d reality.
— Squink Out!
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Spitfire7
Joined: Aug 25, 2009
Posts: 24
California
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Posted on Apr 28 2016 09:15 PM
josheboy wrote:
So I finally got around to ordering a Spitfire for my CIJ Jaguar. As you can see, it looks absolutely stunning! I had him age/relic the bevel to a nice cream color so it would match the sunburst paint a little better (I felt the super new clean white edge would be too bright for this guitar). It's like a completely new Jag, yet looks vintage. Compared to the crappy allparts guard that was on there, the difference is night & day!
Again, I had another great transaction experience with Mark. He is a celluloid tortoiseshell artist and a professional to deal with. I know the guards are pricey, but they're worth ever penny!
Cheers!
Looking great Josheboy!
— Spitfire: The Best In Vintage Tortoiseshell Pickguards
http://spitfiretortoiseshellpickguards.wordpress.com/
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Apr 30 2016 04:07 PM
Anyone have any thoughts about tortoiseshell pickguards sold by Warmoth? I read that they are Italian celluloid.
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Spitfire7
Joined: Aug 25, 2009
Posts: 24
California
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Posted on Apr 30 2016 06:59 PM
JObeast wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts about tortoiseshell pickguards sold by Warmoth? I read that they are Italian celluloid.
I think its cool that its Italian celluloid, but still looks like all the other modern stuff since they make it so differently from how they used to. So its okay, but similar to Fender's modern stuff.
— Spitfire: The Best In Vintage Tortoiseshell Pickguards
http://spitfiretortoiseshellpickguards.wordpress.com/
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JObeast
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Posts: 2762
Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on May 01 2016 11:23 AM
But it's not a printed pattern like those horrid vinyl things, right? I read that in Italy and a Chinese outfit are making sheet celluloid these days, and it's the real deal, virtually the same as it was ever made (nitrocellulose is simple to make, though explosively hazardous).
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Spitfire7
Joined: Aug 25, 2009
Posts: 24
California
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Posted on May 01 2016 09:41 PM
Spitfire7 wrote:
JObeast wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts about tortoiseshell pickguards sold by Warmoth? I read that they are Italian celluloid.
I think its cool that its Italian celluloid, but still looks like all the other modern stuff since they make it so differently from how they used to. So its okay, but similar to Fender's modern stuff.
You're definitely right about it being explosively hazardous. Yeah, they are using the same material and very close to the same chemicals to make their tortoise material from Italy, China, and a few places in America. The difference is in the appearance and the details. In the 60s their process was slightly different and they used some toxic chemicals that aren't used anymore which created this awesome soft, smokey, blurry, 3dimentional fiery appearance, but now its sharp, stringy, and very 2D. I put together some picture examples for you down below. So yes if you're going for the general same celluloid material for the sound resonating through the guard (This is not always that important for most, but there are a few) then yes you can find this in many places including your local guitar shop right off the shelf from Fender products, but the modern celluloid misses it on the look and style. Here are some examples you can compare.
Modern day Fender Celluloid from Italy, China, and America
Vintage 60s Fender Celluloid
And now, Spitfire Vintage Tortoiseshell Pickguards (Which we try hard to recreate the exact 60s look and feel as well as some unique custom styles.
I hope this helps you out in your journey.
— Spitfire: The Best In Vintage Tortoiseshell Pickguards
http://spitfiretortoiseshellpickguards.wordpress.com/
Last edited: May 01, 2016 21:47:36
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