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Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England 
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Posted on Feb 06 2014 11:42 AM
tubeswell wrote:
Again just guessing, the saddles are flat bottomed so it is fixed radius(?) The f-holy plate has slots which the grub screws pass though to a fixing plate on the underside(?). On the first photo (top of the thread) I think I can see some sort of underside black plate in the middle of the bridge, I could be mistaken though. |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1170 Northern CA 
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Posted on Feb 06 2014 03:01 PM
Does anyone know how to obtain one to try it out? |
Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Posts: 245 Los Angeles, CA 
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Posted on Feb 06 2014 03:04 PM
They are not yet available for purchase - currently they are only putting them on a few custom shop models. (This info comes directly from a friend who is artist relations for Fender). — |
Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan 
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Posted on Feb 06 2014 03:16 PM
I agree wit'you, Ace. I like to see new ideas. The less bridge parts to rattle and suck up vibrations parasitically, the better. I also hate that ersatz 'relic' fetishism they are pushing these days. Reminds me of the fake antiques in PKD's novel "Man in the High Castle" – satisfying a urge for 'authernticity' among people who lack that quality in themselves and think they can garner more by purchasing it, even when it is a barefaced fake. CrazyAces wrote: — Last edited: Feb 06, 2014 15:17:41 |
Joined: Nov 28, 2011 Posts: 795 Prescott Valley, AZ
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Posted on Feb 06 2014 11:56 PM
Looks sorta cool, but I prefer individual saddles for intonation of goofy custom string sets. I've got 3 brass "Antiquity" compensated barrels on my '63 Tele and like the tone better than steel, but I try to stay with pretty standard string sets in order to maintain "intonation-a-bility" (new word) My Jazzer is running a Mustang bridge. I solved the buzzy loose barrel height screws with a touch of clear nail polish after the intonation is set. |
Joined: Nov 01, 2017 Posts: 83 Arizona
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Posted on Jul 21 2018 03:30 PM
Resurrecting this thread to see if anyone has had any direct experience with a RSD bridge and what they thought of it. |
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Posted on Jul 21 2018 07:31 PM
OaklandA, I have had two CS Jazzmasters with this bridge. I did not like it at all. While it does make the bridge stable, it also injects a brightness into the guitar. My bandmates actually found the brightness rather painful at outdoor gig levels. Aside from the brightness, the Jazzmasters also lost something essential in their tone that made them sound like JMs. They didn't have that deep, bassy, thump like my normal JMs. On one of the guitars, I replaced the RSD with a normal Fender offset bridge and the guitar sounded much better. Check out Wildwood Guitars CS Jazzmaster section. They have videos of CS JMs that have both the RSD and the normal bridge. Taste and tone are personal, but there was a difference. —Paul |
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Posted on Jul 22 2018 12:07 AM
God, Fender will do anything to avoid making a roller bridge, won't they? |
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Posted on Jul 22 2018 08:57 AM
The thing that struck me was the Custom Shop is using their in-house developed RSD bridge a lot more on their new offsets, despite the tone change. However, as Dave Wronski told us, Fender USA improved the AV JM/Jaguar bridge and the tremolo arm fit in the AV tremolo unit. You can definitely experience the improvement in the (discontinued) AV 65 JM and the AV Thin Skin Jazzmaster. The Custom Shop would be better off to just use the improved AV bridge and tremolo parts. However, the RSD gives them a marketing point of differentiation. —Paul |
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Posted on Jul 23 2018 01:53 PM
ColtsSurf wrote:
Could you elaborate on this improvement on the bridge and tremolo arm fit? Does this apply to the Fender replacement parts as well, and if so, what part numbers (or names) would we look for to replace other parts? That new bridge looks hideous indeed, and I've never felt the original bridge was horrible by any means. On my '67 Jaguar, I've had some problems with grub screws coming loose and falling out and strings occasionally slipping over to the next groove, but it's been great with staying in tune. The tremolo arm twirls around like a windmill, though. Those are all small scale issues that should be fixable with small tweaks rather than a full replacement that looks like an ugly wart on a beautiful instrument. |
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Joined: Nov 01, 2017 Posts: 83 Arizona
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Posted on Jul 23 2018 05:20 PM
I'm guessing the brass adds to the brightness. When i look at that bridge I think Tele-like. Interesting findings on the AV bridge & trem. Thanks! |
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Posted on Jul 24 2018 09:48 AM
Hey guys, here is the post from SlacktoneDave back in August 26, 2012: Question to Dave: In improving the AVRI Jazzmaster, did Fender also improve the past issues with the bridge and tremolo arm seating? Answer from Dave: "I let them spec one of my trem bars I've been using since 1998 that I still use to this day. It has a different shape on the end that goes into the collet. These are being shipped now with these guitars. My trem bars stay where I want them. Out of the few that I started with, only a couple of them give me trouble. They also copied the bends of my unmolested '63 Jaguar. Not sure if that is completely integrated yet. The collet has had some subtle redesign, also. As far as the bridge goes, after telling them that the bridge can vibrate downward as much a 1/64" in a few songs.... a new height screw is now being used that has a channel cut into it with a permanent lock-tight type substance in it to prevent slippage. The new vintage Jags have a neck pocket cut at an angle to allow better back pressure without stacking up a bunch of shims. Know also that the headstock perimeter is corrected for straight string pull. No gaps between the keys. Even old, '60s Jaguars never had straight strigh pull. The low "E" is way off on the old ones. The body shapes have been revised to be more correct, also. That includes the edge radius, as well. The keys look cool, by the way, with "FenderDeluxe" going down in a single line. hope that helps, ~ dave" —Paul |
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Posted on Apr 14 2020 01:46 PM
Does anyone have one of these? I have one on my JM and one side is lower than the other side. My low E string seems to close to the fretboard and the notes are a bit choked past the 12th fret. Anyone know how to adjust this bridge? |
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Posted on May 09 2020 08:19 AM
NM I figured it out. |
Joined: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 2123 The jungle 
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Posted on May 16 2020 08:13 PM
I have one of these bridges. It seems fine. Not sure what all the fuss is about, though; it's just a bridge. I prefer the Mastery on my Telecaster and my Staytrems on a few other Jazzmasters.
FWIW, someone is trying to seel one of these on Reverb for $500 now. So, if you really want one... — |
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Joined: Feb 22, 2019 Posts: 190
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Posted on May 17 2020 10:19 AM
I love the bridge but no way would I buy one for $500. I would rather get an Am Pro bridge. |
Joined: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 132
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Posted on Jul 10 2020 09:42 AM
Is there an update on how to purchase one of these bridges? I have had a Mastery Bridge for a long time and I find that in time it starts sounding like a sitar. I've had my tech "reprofile" the saddles but I might like to try one of these |
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Joined: Feb 22, 2019 Posts: 190
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Posted on Jul 10 2020 07:34 PM
I asked Fender about it and they got back to me a couple days ago.
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Posted on Jul 11 2020 12:40 PM
While I don't think it's something I would be interested in using, it never hurts to have choices. |
Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4054 Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted on Jul 11 2020 01:53 PM
FWIW, last year I was able to create something very similar using a stock Jazzmaster bridge plate and brass Tele saddles, angled for intonation.
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