blueruins
Joined: Mar 05, 2010
Posts: 362
Mauna Lani, HI
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Posted on Sep 11 2013 02:31 PM
morphball wrote:
deadlands wrote:
Interesting. EP-3 owners in other forums are raving about how spot-on the BE is and how the El Cap sounds too clean.
Probably the preamp? I use my El Cap with an EP Booster (and I used a transparent overdrive before that), and I think it sounds great. I think the really important, potentially decisive thing here is the $100 price difference between the echos ($150 if you count the preset switch), and potentially around $100 for a more faithful preamp. I don't see myself scrambling to sell mine, because I'd rather have the preamp and echo separate (and love how the El Cap sounds), but still looking forward to Tavo's verdict since he knows his way around the El Cap and will have a Belle Epoch right next to it.
+1...Tavo will straighten this out.
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TVTheWiredTurtle
Joined: Dec 03, 2009
Posts: 846
Sandy Eggo
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Posted on Sep 12 2013 04:00 AM
Sorry was gone all this last week with the Gretsch nor cal roundup, I probably shouldnt mention I sat in on drums for two members of Meshuggah Beach party.  Those poor guys, I couldnt apologize enough. They have big hearts!
I've given it a quick run through and opened it up to have a look inside.
All very good parts, alpha pots, nichicon electrolytics,some good poly tone caps, neutrik jacks,etc.. pots are also wired with flying leads, not pcb mount. Price is quite fair. Am I getting rid of my El Capistan, no.. but the EC doesnt get as dirty as this thing, its got a "unique" fizz to the slapback, which is suppose to be progressive tape degradation. I will have a video up later this week.
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skeeter
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 2063
Virginia, USA
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Posted on Sep 13 2013 01:28 PM
Mine arrived yesterday. I won't have the chance to test it out with a full band for a couple weeks, but so far it sounds great in the basement!!
Can't compare it to a Strymon or even a real EP, but it does sound a bit grittier and more natural than the Strymon demos that I've heard. It definitely sounds better than any analog delay I've owned. I really dig the preamp, you have to open the back to set it to buffer which leaves it on all the time, but no big deal to me.
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eltwang
Joined: Feb 26, 2008
Posts: 540
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted on Sep 13 2013 01:45 PM
Are you warming up to make your own echo/delay pedal, Tavo?
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kingtone
Joined: May 21, 2014
Posts: 2
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Posted on May 21 2014 12:12 AM
the Belle Epoch is good. it beefs up the tone in slap and shorter delays, and is solid overall but falls down in the regeneration tone department, compared to my 70s EP3 (and my fave sounding dig delay, the Blackbox Quicksilver). Here's some audio/video i put together if you are interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lm5jsbB2Fc&list=UUMfDXEg_8UXzpdgcfiDtMKw
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Last edited: May 21, 2014 00:26:22
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deadlands
Joined: Sep 24, 2012
Posts: 121
Chicago, IL
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Posted on May 22 2014 08:56 AM
kingtone wrote:
the Belle Epoch is good. it beefs up the tone in slap and shorter delays, and is solid overall but falls down in the regeneration tone department, compared to my 70s EP3 (and my fave sounding dig delay, the Blackbox Quicksilver). Here's some audio/video i put together if you are interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lm5jsbB2Fc&list=UUMfDXEg_8UXzpdgcfiDtMKw
I didn't get a feel for exactly what you are referring to. With the EP-3 you played for a little bit and let the repeats build. With the Belle, you had the feedback up too high and only played for a few seconds with the feedback at a setting that matched the EP-3 without waiting for the repeats to settle into the new feedback setting.
I just wanted to point that out, because I haven't seen a good EP-3 vs. Belle Epoch comparison.
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kingtone
Joined: May 21, 2014
Posts: 2
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Posted on May 22 2014 11:49 AM
deadlands wrote:
With the EP-3 you played for a little bit and let the repeats build. With the Belle, you had the feedback up too high and only played for a few seconds with the feedback at a setting that matched the EP-3 without waiting for the repeats to settle into the new feedback setting.
agreed, could have been done better. the belle echo is more touchy where regen goes into runaway mode than an EP3, bit harder to control - the delay was a bit shorter too.
i wanted to show how the regen tone on the belle is rather harsh with the bottom chopped and no real top decay as the regens build (they mention the bottom chop in the manual), where the EP3 just doesn't get harsh and is fuller on the bottom less pronounced on top.
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