You know, the bit where Dave does decending triplets right up the neck at high speed. Have watched his Bells lesson but he didn't mention that. I have no idea of the actual technique. Any ideas?
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Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
You know, the bit where Dave does decending triplets right up the neck at high speed. Have watched his Bells lesson but he didn't mention that. I have no idea of the actual technique. Any ideas? |
Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
Wow, nobody knows. All this musical knowledge on one site and nobody has a clue!! Even the man himself doesn.t know!!!! O dear!!!!! |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
We don't really know what you are talking about. Video/audio example? Also, I never saw this post, must have dropped off the front page quickly. I think I know what you are talking about... Just a quick succession of fast glissandos high up on the neck so it covers a lot of notes quickly. |
Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
Yes, sounds about right Jake. It's a unique riff and very powerfull. I have watched it many times but can't decide if it's muted or open, and where it starts. Does it include harmonics? Is it starting at the 21st fret or over the neck pup? Help!! |
Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBQRR0ovzo0&list=FLOTc-s54wvBesPx9RYJu9Sw There you go, my fav!! At 28 seconds he does it. I can see it but cant work out whats happening. |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
It isn't muted, no harmonics. It is exactly as it looks like with full pressing down of the string against the fret and then quickly flicking his fingers against several frets. It isn't in the Bells instruction video because I don't think he does it on the album recording. |
Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
Ah. Thanks Jake. It looks very tricky but I will follow your guide and work from there. You see, if you don't reslly now where to start you never know if you are practicing it correctly in the first place. Cheers N. |
Joined: Jan 23, 2012 Posts: 282 Budapest |
it's at 0:36-37 full screen. tremolo picking on an empty string, and pull yor finger through 2-3 frat. thats all —original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show |
Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
Thanks togergo. What do you mean by an empty string? |
Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 1725 Austin, Texas |
Surfocaster wrote:
No. Not even a possibility. —IMO. |
Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
Ah, but on looking again it also starts on another ocasion over 19/20 fret which re validates what Jake said. Shite, this is hard! |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
No, it is fretted. It isn't over the pickup, it looks that way because of the angle. He does the same thing on Misirlou when he plays it. Togergo doesn't know what he means by the 'empty string' thing. Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7_IMzJldOf4#t=31s |
Joined: Oct 05, 2012 Posts: 1725 Austin, Texas |
This is funny. When learning bells from the HB video, I always just did it. Now, the more I think about how I do it, the harder it becomes. —IMO. |
Joined: Jul 01, 2006 Posts: 657 |
JakeDobner wrote:
I tried to check it out, but that shirt and hair-do are too distracting! All it is is, I guess is triplets like Surfcaster said. Think of it like /tom/or/Bass drum riffs that are 1/32 notes. Like this this dude explains in his video. Think of what John Bonham did in Good Times Bad Times with his bass drum. Or, this may make more sense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td4RHvyAFsM It helps if the open string... in the case of Bells of St Kahuna, the "A" string is musically correct with the song. It's not in this case because "A" is the Major 3rd of the key of "C"... but if you play it fast enough, they won't smell what your doing! Thanks everyone! See ya at the Sierra Music Camp. ~ dave Last edited: May 25, 2013 15:15:41 |
Joined: Jan 23, 2012 Posts: 282 Budapest |
empty string: sometimes i don"'t have time to find the english phrase, so i just translate the hungarian. empty string ('üres húr') - when you don't use your left hand, don't push anything (e-a-d-g-b or e) - I hope it's clear now. -- OPEN STRING 2-3 frets - It means 2 or 3 frets, not 2nd - 3rd fret. so 21-19, or 19-16, I think it's not too important, it's a rhytmic trick inside a really fast tremolo picking, nobody hears the 'melody' It's really clear at 36-37 in the linked video Surfocaster wrote: — original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show Last edited: May 25, 2013 16:38:14 |
Joined: Jul 01, 2006 Posts: 657 |
SlacktoneDave wrote:
I edited the post to correct the content-sorry |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5097 San Francisco |
Wanted to add one little comment about Dave's 32nd note triplets (aka the "Flicky" thing). A genre or style of music is defined by musical cues and tones, and once a style is defined, as surf music certainly is, it's very hard to bring something new to the accepted vocabulary. (<paraphrasing> Ivan once mentioned that in Flamenco it's heresy to introduce something new.) Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
PolloGuitar wrote:
Tip of the hat sir! And a second tip of the hat for the new album, it is really special! I've always been a huge fan of your works, this is no exception. |
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Joined: Jan 16, 2010 Posts: 214 Somerset, England |
That was a slightly thought provoking post Pollo, I cant work out if you approve of its ubiquitous use or not. |