PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
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Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 05 2013 12:52 AM
Thanks jake. You've been really helpful, I hope to get to talk to you in person sometime. I tried using two picks, which helps. It's probably just that I'm using a jag 12 and a tele 6. Cool trick though, I'll need to try it. I usually add bass notes, as I come from a classical/fingerstyle/prog metal playing background, but I've rarely used octaves. I just don't get when players play long strains of bends and slides on the high E string. I guess it's alright in a group, but alone writing in my bedroom, it sounds boring, mediocre, and insubstantial. Dick D... Never mind.
Don't hang me, it was only a joke. 
Seriously though, I feel that bass notes really help round out a piece, although I've only ever played in an experimental jazz trio setting, and I was the drummer, so I really have no idea what I'm talking about, aside from being a solo guitarist.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Jan 05 2013 02:06 AM
Altar wrote:
Seriously though, I feel that bass notes really help round out a piece,
And that is the cool thing about Dave's playing that is is really showcasing in these videos. He likes to go up and grab a low note every now and then if he has been playing higher. Plopping in a chord or low notes is one of the key tricks to playing in a trio or just making music interesting. It adds an anchor to the music and a point of dramatic tension or relief.
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Brian
Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Jan 05 2013 12:51 PM
This is an amazing thread. Thank you Dave!
Let me ask some questions delicately if I can. Dave we all love Slacktone, when can we get some new material from you guys? Do you feel pressure to match or top what you've done before? Do you suffer from writers block sometimes? And if so what do you do to break out of it? Thanks Dave!
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 05:51 PM
Bump for questions.
When are you coming to Austin? Slacktone have any interest in the Austin surf festival in (October?)?
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SlacktoneDave
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 10:45 PM
Alter, you've reminded me of when I came up with the
Octave/ 12 string concept. I was thinking that jazz players
Play finger style, but its usually employing harmony intervals.except for a Wes Montgomery type thing.
I like the sound of a 12 string, but, not to play for a whole song.
Maybe I would only want certain notes to to have that sound within a melody, and would also need to be able to jump into other types of playing on the fly.
So, learning every possible way to play octave melodys using big stretches, open strings, etc, using flat pick and fingernails, you can really grab and pop this stings to make it jump.
Sitting in a room playing by myself, like you, I want to come up with ideas that sound bigger, and more complete. Look to guys like Chet Atkins for cool tricks! There is a song I learned from him called Dizzy Fingers that has cool use of open string to give you time to switch positions.
-dave
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SlacktoneDave
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 10:53 PM
Altar wrote:
Nice. Wasn't there an article floating around about your artificial twelve string sound, Dave? Links, anyone?
Is it just throwing in an octave note for a jangly sound? It just never sounds jangly like a twelve string for me. Any tips?
I associate the word. "Jangly" with strumming. So, what I'm doing would be a different sound.
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 07 2013 11:10 PM
Not sure what I mean by jangly, probably along the lines of bitey, and the way the strings react with each other.
I've been working hard to try and find a use for twelve string. I'm stuck with mine, and it's a great tool, but I have trouble using it.
Off topic:
In a way, I hate that guitar. It was originally a '66(?) jag in candy apple red that my dad filled the bridge cavity on, replaced the bridge with a Floyd, , swapped the pickups, replaced the headstock, refinished, etc. It's got so many flaws, but it's my baby.
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SlacktoneDave
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
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Posted on Jan 11 2013 08:10 AM
Brian wrote:
This is an amazing thread. Thank you Dave!
Let me ask some questions delicately if I can. Dave we all love Slacktone, when can we get some new material from you guys? Do you feel pressure to match or top what you've done before? Do you suffer from writers block sometimes? And if so what do you do to break out of it? Thanks Dave!
When you cant think of anything to play, do what Miles Davis told {I think} Herbie Hancock, and shutup and let somebody else play. A litttle joke!
Listen to other types of music, and be aware of little counter melodies you might start humming to yourself. Listen to widely varying styles from Crystal Method, to Louis Armstrong. This may be distasteful to some, but no pain, no.... you get it!
Now, I just need to find guys that are into my freshly written Ecstasy influenced Dixieland Jazz!
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MadScientist
Joined: Jan 17, 2008
Posts: 2188
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Jan 11 2013 08:51 AM
SlacktoneDave wrote:
Now, I just need to find guys that are into my freshly written Ecstasy influenced Dixieland Jazz!
That actually sounds AWESOME!
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 11 2013 07:39 PM
MadScientist wrote:
SlacktoneDave wrote:
Now, I just need to find guys that are into my freshly written Ecstasy influenced Dixieland Jazz!
That actually sounds AWESOME!
I think you're joking, but if not, I want to hear this!
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SlacktoneDave
Joined: Jul 01, 2006
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Posted on Jan 11 2013 10:19 PM
Yes, dumb joke; woke up in a dumb mood.
Boink
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 11 2013 10:25 PM
How are those jag switch plates coming?
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jan 12 2013 03:38 AM
Altar wrote:
How are those jag switch plates coming?
Yeah, speaking of which... Dave, do you mind sharing where you got the metal switch plates that you had made? I have a AVRI Jag that I am thinking of making a little more like my Johnny Marr Jag and switch plate is definitely something I prefer much more about that guitar. I wasn't planning on doing the four-way switching, just trem arm, switch plate with three-way blade, maybe do the filters if I can find the parts. I've never ever used the rhythm switches on my Jags/Jazzmaster.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jan 12 2013 03:41 AM
SlacktoneDave wrote:
Now, I just need to find guys that are into my freshly written Ecstasy influenced Dixieland Jazz!
Writing music on ecstasy? You'd end up like these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lXKDu6cdXLI#t=72s
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CenturyBob
Joined: Dec 05, 2008
Posts: 56
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Posted on Jan 12 2013 06:11 AM
There is a guy on the offsetguitars.com forum that makes the Jag switch plates out of stainless steel. Paul Rhoney, goes by "stereordinary". His website may still be www.paulrhoney.com. I have on on my jag and love it. Much better function. Derail over, Now back to you Dave...
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jan 12 2013 11:15 AM
CenturyBob wrote:
There is a guy on the offsetguitars.com forum that makes the Jag switch plates out of stainless steel. Paul Rhoney, goes by "stereordinary". His website may still be www.paulrhoney.com. I have on on my jag and love it. Much better function. Derail over, Now back to you Dave...
Thank you so much! /end question
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Jan 12 2013 11:33 AM
I talked to Paul once and I didn't know it was him until later on. Great guy, and he makes some pretty amazing guitars. He told me $45 each once, for those wondering.
Great mod, that Marr jag is one helluva nice guitar. I wish people would part some out, I want those plates.
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Feb 04 2013 03:13 PM
Hey, Dave! I'd love to see you demo Avalon Slip. I'm having a lot of trouble trying to learn by ear.
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togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
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Posted on Feb 04 2013 03:47 PM
learn by ear::the best 
— original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show
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PrestonRice
Joined: Oct 05, 2012
Posts: 1725
Austin, Texas
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Posted on Feb 04 2013 03:51 PM
I know, but it would be helpful to see how he does it. It's one of the only songs I've not been able to figure out in a long time.
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