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Someone has a 60's unit here for sale, at a nice price.
Does anyone here know anything about it?
Especially regarding the Reverb side: will it drip?

Saw one on Ebay Germany a couple of weeks ago. So there are some of them around, that's all I can say. Price was okay (~100,00 EUR) iirc.

The Hicadoolas

Get it!! I have one and it sounds amazing! Really golden, harmonic, musical repeats. The preamp in it really gives the guitar a nice kick.
They are almost identical electronically to the Klemt Echolette ( i think Ivan can chime in on this one). Built like the proverbial tank. It has 3 heads and two speeds, which gives you a possible 6 different delays. You can also combine heads for multi tap ripple effects. The reverb feature isn't really reverb, but rather all the heads engaged at once for a very interesting effect, just not reverb. One of the coolest features on it is the "Magic Eye" input meter, it looks really cool and hynotic when it's engaged. The only real drawback are the german DIN plugs it requires. You can just use an adapter, or you can have the inputs changed out to regular 1/4" plugs. Like most mechanical gear you have to be prepared to give it regular maintenance, but it is built to last forever. If it's in good working order, you will not be disappointed! A very inspiring sound... Think every early sixties Euro instro group.

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Thanks for the review Psychonaut,
very tempting. I'll have to try it out.
Although I was mainly interested in it's Reverb capabilities,
but still - I'm all for interesting sounds.
It does look cool.
Did you record with it?

SanchoPansen, that seems extremely cheap! The one I'm looking at is 4.5 times that. Shock

Last edited: Feb 05, 2012 15:32:10

I've only recorded some demo stuff with it so far, I mostly mess around at home with it as I haven't written anything to use it with yet. The slapback echo it produces alone is worth it. Yes, do yourself a favor and try it out, You'll love it. Just forget about the reverb, it's nothing like a spring reverb unit, it seems that the term "Nachhall" is used interchageably here to mean both reverb and delay. 100 euros is a steal, and even at 450 euros it's still a good value

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Not mine, but a pretty good demo...

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Last edited: Feb 05, 2012 17:28:03

more...

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Wow. I like that.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Noel wrote:

Wow. I like that.

Play through one for 30 seconds and you'll never look at a digital delay the same way again, gauranteed.
Here's a demo of the Klemt Echolette, which is essentailly the same unit just rebranded. The Echolette has individual volume controls for each head on the front of the unit. The Dynacord features these on the inside.

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So, is anything generally available these days close. What about Guyatone's Tube Echo? I'm still looking.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Very impressive.
I imagine a signal, split one way to the echo, one way to a reverb tank, into 2 amps or 2 channels... could sound huuuge.

DreadInBabylon wrote:

Very impressive.
I imagine a signal, split one way to the echo, one way
to a reverb tank, into 2 amps or 2 channels... could
sound huuuge.

That would sound huge

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Those videos are a lot of fun. Victor is right that the Echocord is just the next iteration of the Klemt Echolette. My Echolette is a really fun unit, but unfortunately mine is super noisy. I sent it for repair and maintenance some years ago to a guy in Arizona that has a service dedicated to tape echoes, and it helped, but it's still too noisy to be used in any kind of a practical situation. Watching the Echolette video that Victor posted just above makes me very jealous! There's no noise there at all. (Anybody know what's causing this noise and where to send it to get it repaired?)

But when working correctly those echo boxes are so incredibly cool - I'd say the coolest guitar effect ever! The flexibility and sound they have is unmatched by any pedal.

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IvanP wrote:

Those videos are a lot of fun. Victor is right that
the Echocord is just the next iteration of the Klemt
Echolette. My Echolette is a really fun unit, but
unfortunately mine is super noisy. I sent it for
repair and maintenance some years ago to a guy in
Arizona that has a service dedicated to tape echoes,
and it helped, but it's still too noisy to be used in
any kind of a practical situation. Watching the
Echolette video that Victor posted just above makes me
very jealous! There's no noise there at all. (Anybody
know what's causing this noise and where to send it to
get it repaired?)

But when working correctly those echo boxes are so
incredibly cool - I'd say the coolest guitar effect
ever! The flexibility and sound they have is unmatched
by any pedal.

What sort of noise is it? My Dynacord is very quiet, the motor makes sound but that doesn't come through the amp. There's a guy in Union NJ, his shop is called Time Electronics. His name is Rich and he used to play bass in the Mystic Eyes back in the 60's. He rebuilt my Echoplex 7 years ago and I haven't had a problem since ( it's been on 3 euro tours, two midwest tours, and countless shows in between ). This guy aproaches electronics as science, if he can't fix it... I can send you his contact if you want.

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psychonaut wrote:

What sort of noise is it?

Hissing. Very loud. Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh.....

My Dynacord is very quiet,

Lucky!

the motor makes sound but that doesn't come through the amp.

Yeah, that's the case with the Echolette, too.

There's a guy in Union NJ, his shop is called Time Electronics. His name is Rich and he used to play bass in the Mystic Eyes back in the 60's. This guy aproaches electronics as science, if he can't fix it... I can send you his contact if you want.

Victor, that would be great! I'm not eager to ship it for repair one more time, but it's not really usable at this point, so I probably better. Thanks!!

Ivan
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IvanP wrote:

psychonaut wrote:

What sort of noise is it?

Hissing. Very loud. Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh.....

My Dynacord is very quiet,

Lucky!

the motor makes sound but that doesn't come through
the amp.

Yeah, that's the case with the Echolette, too.

There's a guy in Union NJ, his shop is called Time
Electronics. His name is Rich and he used to play bass
in the Mystic Eyes back in the 60's. This guy
aproaches electronics as science, if he can't fix it...
I can send you his contact if you want.

Victor, that would be great! I'm not eager to ship it
for repair one more time, but it's not really usable at
this point, so I probably better. Thanks!!

Just emailed you his number

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Last edited: Feb 06, 2012 14:09:03

The sounds these make are wonderful. Open question to anyone who owns any of them. Which one of these comes closest?

BOSS RE-20 Space Echo
TC Electronic Nova Repeater Delay
Vox Satriani Time Machine Delay
Guyatone Flip TD-X Tube Echo (the only one with a tube)
TC Electronic ND-1 Nova Delay
El Capistan

If none of them come close, does anyone know what does?

Thanks.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Last edited: Feb 07, 2012 12:41:51

I don't have experience with any of those except the El Capistan, but I'd say it comes quite close - as close as any pedal I've heard so far.

People always say that the tape echoes sound better, and that's probbly true. But I think what many people forget is that tape echo units almost always have a built-in preamp of some sort. The older tube units actually add a tube preamp to the works, which of course is going to change the sound, and if it's well-designed, for the better. Most pedals don't come with any sort of a preamp, just the effect itself, and if they're well-designed, their sound should be fairly transparent. So, I wonder if many tape echo afficianados are actually responding to the sound of the preamps built into those old tape echo machines, or the sound of the effect itself. I suspect it's often the former. I saw a comparison (maybe somebody posted it here on SG101) between El Capistan and some tape echo machines, and the conclusion was that El Capistan got close but didn't really measure up. I found that comparison quite silly, honestly, given this preamp difference.

Anyway, just a few thoughts....

Ivan
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I think I'll pass on this one meanwhile, sadly. Too expensive. Getting a proper Reverb tank is higher preference for me now, event though the sound, coolness and rareness of this unit is very tempting. I don't think the seller's gonna get rid of it that fast though.

Thanks all for the opinions. Hope to get it in the future.

Also, I already do have a wonderful delay - the Diamond Memory Lane Jr., that has a very warm and rich modulation. Would not compare it with a tape unit, esp. the fun&experiment factor, it is simple, serves all my humble echo needs and really sounds great.

My experience is with a different echo unit, the roland RE-201, and with a variety of digital pedals. There's something a tape echo does - a saturation to the sound - I don't hear anywhere else. That said, there are several pedals that deliver some of the tape atmosphere. Best one in the Echoplex vein I've heard is the H&K Replex. Not that close, but reminiscent. Very pretty sounding delay there. On the space echo side, the Catalinbread montavillian pedal really surprised me. It's not marketed this way, but turns out to be somewhere in the space echo zone if you set it just right. The CB pedal is my favorite of all the pedals I've tried, sounds so good I rarely turn the RE-201 on any more.

MD

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