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I doubt surf music was the first musical genre most of you started with. I'm curious as to what led you all here. As a guitarist I've played rock 'n' roll, semi heavy metal, 50's and 60's music, classical guitar, acoustic celtic music, originals, Rockabilly and currently 80's and celtic music. Now I really want to pursue surf right down to the retro gear. I just think it is so cool. Anyone else have a similar history? Sorry if this has been discussed before.

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I grew up playing in Punk bands from the late 80's on. The late 80's/early 90's surf crossover in the genre led me here. With bands like Man or Astro-man?, Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet making a mark and Dick Dale having a second wind of a career, all the stones just turned in this direction. While my main band in the mid 90's did touch on writing a few instro tunes, it was not until the early 2000's when I finally started to see potential in my songwriting and playing ability to actually tackle this genre. Even with that said, my punk roots still have a huge presense in the music I write.

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I lucked out and was born to a father with excellent taste in music, so when I was a little kid, I'd listen to lots of Beatles, Stones, the Who, Hendrix, Sly & The Family Stone, and the Beach Boys. I never grew out of them. Also grew up watching spaghetti westerns, and the soundtracks made a big impression on me.

When I was just starting to expand my horizons and buy music on my own in my early teens in the mid 90s, and the timing was perfect. The grunge craze I think exposed or led people to listen to punk rock who might not have been exposed otherwise. Ended up being a huge Ramones fan, started a punk band, and then, while all that was going on, I was introduced to instrumental surf and related music through Pulp Fiction and Kids in the Hall. Fell in love with that kind of music, and I incorporated lots of surf-ish elements into my playing and writing, but didn't play "surf."

My high school band fell apart, and after college I started another one where I was the principal songwriter. But the years between projects where I didn't write much (broken hand, then played drums for another band, and a heavy courseload my last two years of school), I guess my writing tastes had kind of changed. Maturity, cynicism, or I don't know what, but those good old fashioned, somtimes angsty themes that were typical in lyrics for the punk/garage music I dug I didn't feel comfortable writing or singing anymore.

With rock lyrics, there's a fine line between being outspoken and preachiness, and for that matter between having a sense of humor (a la the Ramones) vs. just being goofy (Primus). It was a line that I didn't feel comfortable walking anymore. Took me forever to come up with lyrics for the band's record. "I'm pushing 30, and I'm gonna sing a song whining about this? Or pledging my affection for some chick? F-that! I just wanna play loud, fast, and have it sound cool."(which is probably the Ramones-fan in me shining through, lol)

So, I decided next band I'm in, it's gonna be primarily instrumental music. The other band is still around but pretty much on hiatus due to the drummer and his wife starting a family. Got the personnel lined up for the surf band, but I'm coming up with some more material before we start practicing as a full band. You can definitely tell that while "surf", the guy writing the music is equal parts a Link Wray, Ramones, and Ennio Morricone fan.

EricB wrote:

I lucked out and was born to a father with excellent
taste in music, so when I was a little kid, I'd listen
to lots of Beatles, Stones, the Who, Hendrix, Sly & The
Family Stone, and the Beach Boys. I never grew out of
them. Also grew up watching spaghetti westerns, and the
soundtracks made a big impression on me.

When I was just starting to expand my horizons and buy
music on my own in my early teens in the mid 90s, and
the timing was perfect. The grunge craze I think
exposed or led people to listen to punk rock who might
not have been exposed otherwise. Ended up being a huge
Ramones fan, started a punk band, and then, while all
that was going on, I was introduced to instrumental
surf and related music through Pulp Fiction and Kids in
the Hall. Fell in love with that kind of music, and I
incorporated lots of surf-ish elements into my playing
and writing, but didn't play "surf."

My high school band fell apart, and after college I
started another one where I was the principal
songwriter. But the years between projects where I
didn't write much (broken hand, then played drums for
another band, and a heavy courseload my last two years
of school), I guess my writing tastes had kind of
changed. Maturity, cynicism, or I don't know what, but
those good old fashioned, somtimes angsty themes that
were typical in lyrics for the punk/garage music I dug
I didn't feel comfortable writing or singing anymore.

With rock lyrics, there's a fine line between being
outspoken and preachiness, and for that matter between
having a sense of humor (a la the Ramones) vs. just
being goofy (Primus). It was a line that I didn't feel
comfortable walking anymore. Took me forever to come up
with lyrics for the band's record. "I'm pushing 30, and
I'm gonna sing a song whining about this? Or pledging
my affection for some chick? F-that! I just wanna play
loud, fast, and have it sound cool."(which is probably
the Ramones-fan in me shining through, lol)

So, I decided next band I'm in, it's gonna be primarily
instrumental music. The other band is still around but
pretty much on hiatus due to the drummer and his wife
starting a family. Got the personnel lined up for the
surf band, but I'm coming up with some more material
before we start practicing as a full band. You can
definitely tell that while "surf", the guy writing the
music is equal parts a Link Wray, Ramones, and Ennio
Morricone fan.

It is funny that you mention being uncomfortable with lyrical content these days. I went through the same thing. While in my teens and twenties, lyrics were easy to come up with. Angst, stupid and idealistic values preached at maximum volume...That all seems to come natural at that age....Then my thirties hit. I had a desk job, children, divorce and every other Adult experience under my belt. I quickly realized that I just didn't have that much to say anymore. Well, I didn't have much to say that would be of interest to our target audience....Honestly, what self-respecting teenager or college kid is going to connect with stories of potty training, T-ball practice, weekly reports for work etc. etc. etc... Instrumental music really did seem like that natural place to be for me.

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http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/
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old guy here---surf came out around the same time i started playing guitar--around 61 and 62. played all surf until the Yardbirds came out. have played rock, blues and jazz ever since. got back into surf after Pulp Fiction came out. now i'm back to mostly surf. i'm 60 now and have been playing since i was 11 or so. surf just seems natural to me' i can't imaqine a day without hearing it or sitting down and cranking out an hours' worth of 'verb drenched surf!!
so, i did start with surf, had a journey in music genres and am back home!! Guitar Guitar Guitar

Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!

I started out as a classical player. After a couple of years, I 'went electric' and played blues for a year or so until I got involved with surf in 1992. I was also interested in rockabilly and swing just before it got popular in the mid-90's. I even learned how to do the Chet Atkins fingerpicking from an old copy of the "Play Guitar With Chet Atking" album.

http://jukebox.au.nu/instromania/miscellaneous/play_guitar_with/chet_atkins_1968_play_guitar_with_chet_atkins/200.jpg

If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

Apart from noodling around with friends and a couple performances of 1-2 songs where I played slide guitar, I've only ever really done surf instrumental. I didn't start playing in a 'proper' band (surf)until my mid-30's, a couple of years ago. I've jammed more recently with a bunch of friends on rock stuff with a singer, with a view to performing here and there for fun and I do not enjoy it anywhere near as much, especially playing where reverb and in the surf style is not really appreciated. I feed off the joy of playing surf and am used to complementing the lead guitar with my rhythm. I find playing other styles to be a nice break and nothing more - I don't enjoy it more than that.

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Last edited: Dec 04, 2011 00:51:48

I fit in roughly the same generation as ZZERO. Played surf in the South Bay area of SoCal in the early 60's. First influences were SoCal surf bands. Eddie and the Showmen, PJ and the Galaxies, The Lively Ones, Dick Dale, etc. Played rhythm guitar in an unknown surf band, The Caravans. Migrated to pop bands, however, my brother wanted me to learn blues styles, so to get my attention, he turned me on to an LP titled Freddie King Goes Surfin'. which was a re-release of his instro LP from some time earlier. I now play more blues than anything, but I've never lost a yearning for vintage surf and I'm returning to my roots. This site was a great find for me.

Last edited: Dec 11, 2011 16:35:30

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