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Permalink '65 Fender Bandmaster re-doux

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I recently bought a 1965 Bandmaster as a project, mostly because I enjoy doing this type of work.

Below is how it looked when I got it - it had been re-done sometime in the late 70's I'm guessing in lacquer to look more like a Mesa Boogie of the period. All the hardware was painted black, but it was in excellent mechanical condition, and even had the original speakers.

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I put new electrolytic caps in it, re-tubed it, and added a 3 prong cord. All 3 transformers were the originals, and worked just fine.
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Next came the exterior - since it was already stripped of tolex, it was easy to get it ready for new tolex, just a bit of sanding to give the glue something to stick to.

I don't know if I install tolex the right way, but I'll show pictures of how I do it. It looks right in the end, and seems to work for me. I hope the following pictures help someone else learn how to do it.

On the last few I've done, I've used Weldwood water based contact cement - low odor, and I actually like the way it sticks better than the regular stinky stuff.
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I like to do the speaker cabinet first, because the corners are covered with a metal corner, and it gives me a chance to make sure my technique for the corners is good.

I cut the tolex pieces for the sides - I measure the side, and add 7-8" for overlap, and trimming. So, my 22"x12" cabinet side gets a 29"x19" piece. I also cut the pieces for the top and bottom, and make sure to cut the length exact, as I won't trim it, and it has to be exact to fit right. I do cut the depth 7" long. So, on the 32"x12" top piece, I cut a piece that is 30.25" x 19"

Then I spread glue on all 4 pieces of tolex, and the two cabinet sides. The glue on the cabinet sets up much quicker than the glue on the tolex. Then, while the glue dries, I wait, and wait and wait.......
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About 45 minutes later, when the glue has set up to a clear look, and feels dry, I'm ready to install some tolex!

First, I put the tolex on the side, and center it it up so I have enough overlap on the sides. Smooth it out from the center, working outward. it will pull off if you need to re-position it.

Next comes the corners, and is really the only part that is tricky. This took me a while to figure out, but with the help of some others here, I got it. Pictures work better than words here.....
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I use a pair of really good scissors to cut the flap off, and a plastic bike tire removal tool to push the tolex corner down.

Then, trimming, and finish wrapping the tolex around the edges, and trim the excess off.
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That's it for the sides. The top and bottom are much easier. I was running out of daylight the day i did this one, so I don't have pics. Spread glue on the top and side, and wait for it to dry, then install the top tolex. Since it's cut to the exact dimension, just position it front to back, wrap it around and trim.

The head cabinet is done the same way.
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Tolexing the back panels are pretty straight forward. I had to make a back panel for the amp head. It turned out pretty well.

I won't bother going into grill cloth, mostly because I'm not 100% happy with my abilities. So, just staple that stuff on, and reassemble the amp.
I used a mix of new, and old hardware on this one. New handles and corners, the rest I stripped the black paint from.

And, here's how it turned out. It sounds great, and I really like the look of the smooth blond/gold grill transitional Blackface amps.

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And, just for fun, a couple of period guitars along with it.
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Last edited: Oct 19, 2011 11:43:21

Beautiful! I did the same thing to my Bandmaster that someone had "remodeled" sometime in the 1970s and was even uglier than yours was at first. Mine had some sort of nasty brown/orange/yellow curtains used in place of the grill-cloth. I absolutely LOVE the blond/gold combo. Mine was modded electronically as well and holes were drilled all over the place because the person added a reverb to it, or some other effect. I had it converted back to the stock BF as I didn't think I'd be able to do it myself and be happy with it. Now I have a beautiful amp that looks just like yours. Awesome job!

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Nice job!

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Very nice work!

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you do excellent work Chris. Great job!!!!!

That looks awesome!
I'm considering retolexing my '66 as I began to notice just how trashed the cab was looking.

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You are making the world a cooler place one amp at a time.

Very nice Chris!
Thanks for the how to also. Nicely done.
You're turning into the resident tolex wizard.

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Back to it's formal glory the right way, awesome job as usual Chris.

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Very Nice
Looks just like on the one I just did

Great Job!!

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A thing of beauty Chris!

Nice job Chris. Now that the amp is done you can rake some leaves. Wink

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Thanks everyone - it was a fun project.

Brian wrote:

Nice job Chris. Now that the amp is done you can rake
some leaves. Wink

Brian - I will rake no leaves before their time - plus, I bought a leaf blower last year, best invention ever. I use it to clean the garage too.

"You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been"

Next step in the superb Bandmaster renovation project: sell it to your former bandmate! Whaddaya mean, "No way"?

Great job! Nice to see a classic restored and taken care of.

Like the StingRay in the garage, too!

wow! it looked like old grandma's furniture, now all mighty Fender glory! Cool!
How much tolex did you use for this recovering?

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Sweet! What an awesome feeling, restoring an amp like that.
Such crimes were committed to amps and guitars in that era (early '80), like 'nooo- we need to make it modern, cutting edge style, beacuse we're young and we just don't care'... No
Fender had it right from the get go, even with the cosmetics.

Last edited: Oct 27, 2011 06:49:47

Emilien03 wrote:

wow! it looked like old grandma's furniture, now all
mighty Fender glory! Cool!
How much tolex did you use for this recovering?

I think it was 5 linear yards - this tolex was 54" wide by 36" per yard. I had the tolex left over from a previous project, and I don't remember exactly how much I bought. I always buy a yard more than I think I'll need, because I'd hate to run out before I'm done.

fenderfan wrote:

Next step in the superb Bandmaster renovation project:
sell it to your former bandmate! Whaddaya mean, "No
way"?

Actually, I bought this one to fix and sell. It's on craigslist , and may have a new home early next week. You dn't need this one fenderfan, you have a sweet blonde Bassman Cool

"You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been"

I was going to mention the leaves and the bike... and got beat to both, serves me right Smile

I too have a leaf blower, and I too use it to clean my garage. Takes two minutes, I don't need no steenkin' broom!

Nice work, as always!

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