killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
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Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 12:50 PM
Onslow_Beach wrote:
Vinyl is so passé. Cassette Tapes. That's where it's at
nowadays.
Thank the kids of the 80's who have Walkman & Boombox
memories like folks of the vinyl era, getting all
nostalgic and what not as they approach / cross over
the hill.
Exhibit
A.
Exhibit
B.
Exhibit
C.
Exhibit
D
Ok, well maybe not totally the rage. No disagreement
that Vinyl still has a place. IMO - the real-estate for
artwork in this format will keep the cassette tape from
making a full resurgence.
Yes, Cassettes are the new Hipster false nostalgia trend...This is one I hope to quickly see pass. I could give you a hundred arguments about why Vinyl never completely went away. I can give you an equal number of arguments for why CD's were able to so quickly take over the cassette market...
Man or Astro-man? have a new 7" coming out, as well as it being released on Cassette(not CD)...I just refuse to buy into this....refuse...
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remora1
Joined: Jan 04, 2008
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San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 01:35 PM
I'm waiting to see a Hipster with one of these -
Anyone remember the old "Detonator" 8 track player?
— Bill S._______
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killbabykill34
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Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 02:02 PM
remora1 wrote:
I'm waiting to see a Hipster with one of these -
Anyone remember the old "Detonator" 8 track player?
I remember seeing one of these on The Wonder Years, if I am not mistaken. I have never seen one in person.
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
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Israel
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 06:06 PM
What a stupid fad, cassettes were horrible, horrible. Worst audio medium ever. I had a whole bunch, never wanna see this thing again. Nostalgia? phew. BS kids don't know right from wrong...
Records OTH are wonderful, especially the big cover, or double album cover you can trip into. Great art indeed.
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Fady
Joined: Mar 07, 2010
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North Carolina
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 07:32 PM
I'd take vinyl over cassette too.
That said, you can't ignore the impact (one massive step in the technological evolution) in giving total listener control of music on the go (vs. Radio), as well as the ability to curate "personal mixes" - not just for ones own listening tastes, but as a soundtrack to our lives and for those we care about. Who has never made a mix tape for a best friend or someone you thought of as more than that?
For all the warts, the cassette transformed how we listen to and share music in profound ways that seem to have been forgotten as technology continued to advance.
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Ariel
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Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 07:50 PM
Indeed, it deserves it's place in history. Respect to that - it allowed greater freedom than what was before. Also- portable recording on the cheap.
Was good for it's time, but a comeback? That's crazy talk. There's no audio or practical advantage whatsoever, and I don't find it the least romantic or charming (unlike LP's which DO have all those qualities). There's no coolness or magic to it (IMO) either. It's just hipsters, doing their thing, bringing back obsolete junk because they have no originality and they're bored.
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SpaceFargo
Joined: Feb 18, 2010
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Lake Forest, CA
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 09:34 PM
I know cassettes are popular with small noise/experimental labels where the poor sound quality doesn't matter as much (or even compliments the sound they want). Outside of that I don't get it.
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Goofyfootinmouth
Joined: Apr 09, 2011
Posts: 82
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 10:17 PM
Growing up I bought vinyl new and used because it was cheaper than a new cassette (a 3 to 1 ratio of teenage buying power). I would transfer them to a cassette for the car. When mp3's hit I had no problem adjusting to fidelity loss at all. Now I own 2 Turntables. My number one purchased from Guitar Center a Stanton that was under 100 dollars when I bought it and a Sota Cosmos. I don't use the Cosmos at all anymore. It was primarily for my classical records and audiophile pressings. Lately all I play are second hand instrumental and beat up country records so the Stanton is full time. Lately with all of my favorite record stores closing and vinyl prices rising I buy a lot of cds at Amazon. Vinyl would be my first choice. I just love the oversized baseball card aspect of it. The record is more of a ritual as far as convenience goes it's not. Flipping records is a pain at times. Those old cassettes of my 45's where a lot of fun to make and hear back in the day.
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killbabykill34
Joined: Apr 03, 2010
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Jacksonville, AL
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 10:47 PM
The audio quality of cassettes is/was subpar. Even worse, the sound deteriorates at a pretty swift rate when compared to vinyl...The one area where I would say cassettes hold an advantage lies in how inconvenient they are. The process of fast forwarding or rewinding them to get to a particular song lends itself very well to encouraging listening to an entire album vs. the track skipping that CD's helped to usher in....
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ChazSurf
Joined: Nov 25, 2010
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 11:17 PM
I haven't listening to cassettes in a long time, but they were a big part of growing up. I'm sure that all the Jan and Dean compilation tapes I made in the 80's are still somewhere around the house.
A few months back I got my turntable going again. This week, "The Gentleman Racer" by the Aqua Vista's came in the mail. It's the first new record I've had in almost 20 years - and it sounds marvelous. I love spinning vinyl.
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drumuitar
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Boise, ID
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Posted on Sep 22 2011 11:39 PM
I picked up a USB cassette player so I could transfer some old radio air checks and big band stuff that was only out on old budget tapes back in the 80s. It has a lot of hiss that bleeds through but the source recordings aren't great to start with. I can use Audition to clean them up somewhat without degrading the audio too badly. If anyone is looking to buy on of these, don't pay 50 or 60 bucks at Best Buy or Staples. I picked one up on eBay for less than 20 bucks & it appears that most of them are made by the same manufacturer, then branded with different logos.
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bigtikidude
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 12:00 AM
I don't get the turntable to Mp3 or cassette to mp3 thing.
I have a stand alone cd burner, so I make real audio recordings of the LP's
or cassettes to cdr.
then If I wanted to make mp3s after that I suppose I could.
But I am anti mp3. hate the sound of them.
I play cds in my truck.
while working, cleaning pools I listen to the birds chirp,
a buddy pool cleaner of mine, says I'm crazy for not getting a mp3 player
as many cds and lps that I have.
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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DaveF
Joined: May 10, 2009
Posts: 1118
Green Valley, AZ
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 12:51 AM
I bought an iPod 120 gig player a while back. Supposed to hold 30,000 songs. I've got 23,000 on it, all from my cds. It's good for the car, put on shuffle play. iPod uses the AAC format, which is supposed to be better than mp3. iTunes can also convert cds to WAV.
Jeff, I have a NAD cassette deck not doing anything if you wanna borrow it or I can make the cds from cassette.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 08:03 AM
I've got 15,000 on my 120gb iPod and it is maxed out... No complaints though.
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Goofyfootinmouth
Joined: Apr 09, 2011
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 08:20 AM
I travel a lot for work. The ipod has made traveling and music and movies a lot easier. Before I travelled with a dvd player plus dvds in my luggage and a small box or folder of cds and back up batteries for the portable cd player. Then when I got where I was going I usually bought a few records I would have to haul back home as well. I prefer records, but the mp3 player is lighter for sure. I'm going to buy a Ipad next just for the movies. The ipod screen is a bit small. I have a friend who has a few portable record players. He travelled with them for a while. I'm sure that novelty wore off quick.
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ElMonstroPorFavor
Joined: Sep 01, 2006
Posts: 2760
New Orleans, LA
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 08:29 AM
Turntable/Cassette deck > receiver > computer's line in works just as well as as USB whatever and that way you can use your own equipment rather than the plastic USB junk they make these days. My pioneer cassette deck sounds about as good as a cassette can.
I have a few hip friends that asked for a mixtape a little while ago. Some of them have old beat up cars that only take tapes, some like the durability, some just like the way they're supposed to be listened to in one go. I'll admit, I have a BLAST making it, it was like doing a small DJ set for one person and my records were all over the place afterward.
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DaveF
Joined: May 10, 2009
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Green Valley, AZ
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 09:31 AM
mix tapes or as I call them VC ( various crap ) are much easier to create on cd than cassette. The only nit pick I couldn't resolve is how to deal with the varying decibel levels between songs from different cds. Remastered cds tend to be much louder than older cds.
I keep wondering if cds are really limited by 44.1 khz 16 bit or is it just the software.
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BayState
Joined: Feb 09, 2011
Posts: 60
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 09:35 AM
DaveF wrote:
mix tapes or as I call them VC ( various crap ) are
much easier to create
on cd than cassette. The only nit pick I couldn't
resolve is how to deal with the varying decibel levels
between songs from different cds. Remastered cds tend
to be much louder than older cds.
Many burning programs, I know Nero for one, have an option to normalize audio files so that volume remains the same for the entire burned disc.
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 09:43 AM
I really don't get it- the whole point of records sounding better is their analog quality. everything that passes through your soundcard is converted to 1's and 0's. If you're listening at home = turntable>amp>speakers.
And mp3? crap. great media for downstreaming/portablility but why convert your precious beautiful records to that digital atrocity? WAV or FLAC are the least offending, and we have more than enough storage space nowadays.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Sep 23 2011 10:09 AM
Digital audio can sound better than vinyl, it just doesn't. Maybe in a decade... Should have happened by now.
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