BillyBlastOff
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Posted on Oct 04 2010 08:57 PM
I'm sure this Vid has been passed around here already, but man, Leo sure had his sh*t together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVD2SvVEwEs&feature=player_embedded
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bamboozer
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Delaware
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Posted on Oct 05 2010 08:38 AM
Fascinating, very well done.
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Oct 05 2010 08:48 AM
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Oct 05 2010 08:55 AM
There was a brief photo of Mr. Blackmore in there.
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WoodyJ
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Bethlehem, GA
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Posted on Oct 05 2010 10:19 AM
Great video, but where was Ivan?
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Klas
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted on Oct 05 2010 12:14 PM
IvanP
the only one missing for me was Ritchie.
Yeah, it would have been great seeing Richie Podolor in there!
Oh, you meant Blackmore... but... but... but I thought he played a Gibson!?
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Oct 07 2010 10:29 AM
WoodyJ
Great video, but where was Ivan?
I know, right??
Klas
Yeah, it would have been great seeing Richie Podolor in there!
Yes, him, too! That guy could SHRED with the best of them!
(Just last week I bought the CD "Crucible" by Halford - Judas Priest's singer's Rob Halford's side band, VERY heavy metal - and as I was driving to Cleveland I took a quick look at the credits. Credited as producer of one track - Ritchie Podolor!!! See, heavy metal, surf, it's all the same.... )
Oh, you meant Blackmore... but... but... but I thought he played a Gibson!?
True - if your musical history ends in 1970. Which sounds like someone we know, right?
The Guitar Player mag just sent their new edition of GP2 (their online version of the magazine), and there was a reprint of a lengthy story from 1999 celebrating the great Strat players, including Dick, Hank and Ritchie (B.!). Really good stuff - check it out here:
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/newbay/gp2_201009/#/34
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Klas
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted on Oct 07 2010 12:59 PM
IvanP
See, heavy metal, surf, it's all the same....
Yeah, surf music and heavy metal is the same thing.
True - if your musical history ends in 1970. Which sounds like someone we know, right?
It actually ends in 1966...
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elreydlp
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Temecula, CA
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Posted on Oct 07 2010 01:57 PM
My freshman year in college, my roomate was a bass player and had a Cherry Red Gibson EB-2. We argued over the superiority of Gibson/Fender constantly with me citing all the great Strat players. His best comeback was always Clapton (who I loved) who was with Cream at the time and playing the SG and 335. Imagine my glee, a few years later when I saw "Brownie" on the back cover of "Derek and the Dominoes". Strats rule!
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Oct 07 2010 06:24 PM
Klas
IvanP
See, heavy metal, surf, it's all the same....
Yeah, surf music and heavy metal is the same thing.
No? Both genres: almost always all guys, almost completely guitar-dominated, played very loudly with a lot of notes and often at very rapid tempos, often dressed in matching outfits, often sporting matching guitars, often having choreographed moves - which usually involve waving the guitars about, and of course, let's not forget the hyperactive drummers - at least the ones that get a lot of respect in both genres.
Eddie Bertrand went on to play hard rock and heavy metal in the '80s and '90s; Dick Dale proclaimed himself the father of heavy metal (and certainly dressed like a metalhead for much of the past 20 years); the Chantays added a full-blown metal guitarist to replace their keyboard player in the '90s; Randy Holden played proto-metal in the '70s'; Ritchie Podolor became a highly respected metal producer. John Blair was listening to a lot of Metallica in the late '90s, trying to figure out how to incorporate some of that sound into surf music. Certainly many of the guys that started this stuff way back when saw the connections.
So, what's the difference exactly?
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Ruhar
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San Diego, CA
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Posted on Oct 07 2010 06:40 PM
Thanks for the link Ivan. Good to see Rory Gallagher included.
Dick Dale
If you want punch, power, and the driving force of rock and roll, then you've got to play a Stratocaster
I won't argue with that
IvanP
So, what's the difference exactly?
Metal has cooler accessories?
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Klas
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted on Oct 08 2010 08:31 AM
IvanP
Eddie Bertrand went on to play hard rock and heavy metal in the '80s and '90s; Dick Dale proclaimed himself the father of heavy metal (and certainly dressed like a metalhead for much of the past 20 years); the Chantays added a full-blown metal guitarist to replace their keyboard player in the '90s;
And that's likely a big factor of why none of these acts are anything near as great as they used to be before hard rock and heavy metal came along. Do you actually think that any of those above didn't become severly less good after they got into heavy metal compared to what they were like during the first wave era when heavy metal didn't exist? Talk about bad influence...
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Oct 08 2010 08:41 AM
elreydlp
My freshman year in college, my roomate was a bass player and had a Cherry Red Gibson EB-2. We argued over the superiority of Gibson/Fender constantly with me citing all the great Strat players. His best comeback was always Clapton (who I loved) who was with Cream at the time and playing the SG and 335. Imagine my glee, a few years later when I saw "Brownie" on the back cover of "Derek and the Dominoes". Strats rule!
Gibsons are infinitely superior, in make, but the sound of the Strat has a unique timbre that has really defined a generation of "guitar rock". So, if a guitar can produce musical notes, then you can make great music with it, and that is what the Strat did/does.
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DeadRanchHands
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Posted on Oct 08 2010 11:00 AM
JakeDobner
elreydlp
My freshman year in college, my roomate was a bass player and had a Cherry Red Gibson EB-2. We argued over the superiority of Gibson/Fender constantly with me citing all the great Strat players. His best comeback was always Clapton (who I loved) who was with Cream at the time and playing the SG and 335. Imagine my glee, a few years later when I saw "Brownie" on the back cover of "Derek and the Dominoes". Strats rule!
Gibsons are infinitely superior, in make, but the sound of the Strat has a unique timbre that has really defined a generation of "guitar rock". So, if a guitar can produce musical notes, then you can make great music with it, and that is what the Strat did/does.
The binding and body curvature, etc are all more complicated and require more craftsmanship to make than a Strat. However,
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Oct 08 2010 11:40 AM
Klas
IvanP
Eddie Bertrand went on to play hard rock and heavy metal in the '80s and '90s; Dick Dale proclaimed himself the father of heavy metal (and certainly dressed like a metalhead for much of the past 20 years); the Chantays added a full-blown metal guitarist to replace their keyboard player in the '90s;
And that's likely a big factor of why none of these acts are anything near as great as they used to be before hard rock and heavy metal came along. Do you actually think that any of those above didn't become severly less good after they got into heavy metal compared to what they were like during the first wave era when heavy metal didn't exist? Talk about bad influence...
I think their new stuff RAWKS!
And look at all the metal influenced younger players - Shigeo Naka, Dave Wronski, Dave Pilgrim.... The best of the best in modern surf! (I'm sure there are many others, but those are the ones I can think of now....)
Good surf = good metal!
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bigtikidude
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Oct 08 2010 01:52 PM
Following the off topic discussion here.
Both the pilgrims and ghastyies have
Black Sabbath influences on a couple songs.
And I dig it when stuff like that pops up from
Time to time.
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CaptainSpringfield
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 4387
Under the Sun
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Posted on Oct 08 2010 02:59 PM
Let's be fair, though - the one and only thing worse than poorly-applied punk influences in modern surf is poorly-applied metal influences.
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bigtikidude
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Oct 10 2010 06:39 PM
all depends on how good the band is,
and how well they are at applying it.
and how uptight the listener is.
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spskins
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tn
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Posted on Oct 10 2010 06:58 PM
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bigtikidude
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Oct 11 2010 01:32 AM
True,
a certain Heavy So- Cal surf band,
says they are a punk surf band.
but they have always sounded more Metal than Punk to me.
go figure...
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