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We've already had an explicit statement that the band were aware of the origins of Pintor in the Latin classic Angelitos Negros. I couldn't see how they wouldn't but it's great to have that affirmed.

Let me resurrect another biggie, in the form of a question of Jake's:

Does anybody know if they were named after the Lighthouse of Alexandria (Pharos) or the Egyptian Kings (Pharaohs)?

Also, everyone likes to know what happened to the band members over time? Where are they today, etc. And, of course, what kind of gear did they favor (if still remembered!), and the eternal question of whether anything else was recorded ...

Hi Tony, and welcome to SG101! Very cool to read your post and "connect" (even in a small way) with a musician who played on that awesome track.

No one else has popped the question, and I hope it's okay to ask... how was it working with Frank Zappa in the studio? That is assuming he actually recorded/engineered "Pintor" and "Rhythm Surfer"?

I'm a huge FZ fan (on many levels) and would love to hear any recollections you have of the session. Zappa and surf music overlap only occasionally (and even then somewhat shrouded in mystery), so I'd love to hear any details you can share. Thanks in advance!

-murph

UPDATE: I just re-read one of the related threads on SG101 and learned that apparently Pintor was recorded in '63. I'll leave my post as-is and invite Tony to share any cool memories from his time with the band beginning in '64... FZ-related or not! :-)

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shivers13 wrote:

Great stuff! An amazing tune with such a great
melancholy melody. Pintor means Painter in Spanish. A
very appropriate tune to use with Dora footage.

Someone needs to write a tune called "I Got Shoved Off My Board At Malibu By Miki Dora."

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WhorehayRFB wrote:

shivers13 wrote:

Great stuff! An amazing tune with such a great
melancholy melody. Pintor means Painter in Spanish.
A
very appropriate tune to use with Dora footage.

Someone needs to write a tune called "I Got Shoved Off
My Board At Malibu By Miki Dora."

Maybe Johnny Fain could write that one?

I think Whorehay needs to write the tune, "I hate Miki Dora". That'll be the only verse in the song over and over.

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Tony just sent me this photo!

  1. Greg - Drums
  2. Tony Ibarra - Bass guitar
  3. Danny - Rhythm guitar
  4. Cesar Aliviado - Lead guitar

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Wow, that's amazing!

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They Kinda look like the guys in the modern surf band Wild Pink Horse.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Tony says the occasion was his cousin's wedding.

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Pretty cool to finally be able to put faces on them!

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Wow, this is so neat. Thank you, Tony, for putting a story and some info behind "Pintor." It's up there among my list of favorites. When I think of bands covering it today, nobody does it better than Outerwave, in my humble opinion.

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shivers13 wrote:

I think Whorehay needs to write the tune, "I hate Miki
Dora". That'll be the only verse in the song over and
over.

That sounds like something he would do. Razz

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WhorehayRFB wrote:

shivers13 wrote:

Great stuff! An amazing tune with such a great
melancholy melody. Pintor means Painter in Spanish.
A
very appropriate tune to use with Dora footage.

Someone needs to write a tune called "I Got Shoved Off
My Board At Malibu By Miki Dora."

Sounds like another Spahn Ranch Boys hit!

shivers13 wrote:

I think Whorehay needs to write the tune, "I hate Miki
Dora". That'll be the only verse in the song over and
over.

I hate Miki Dora
He shoved me off my board
Painted a swastika on it
Then stole my passport

I hate Miki Dora
He's an evil troll
I hate Miki Dora
But I love Greg Noll

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WhorehayRFB wrote:

shivers13 wrote:

I think Whorehay needs to write the tune, "I hate
Miki
Dora". That'll be the only verse in the song over
and
over.

I hate Miki Dora
He shoved me off my board
Painted a swastika on it
Then stole my passport

I hate Miki Dora
He's an evil troll
I hate Miki Dora
But I love Greg Noll

Somebody sign that boy to a record contract now!

Jeff(bigtikidude)

bigtikidude wrote:

Somebody sign that boy to a record contract now!

But it has (YUCK!) lyrics...

I'll wait for the instro version Big Razz

Last edited: Feb 29, 2012 11:47:58

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This will be the album cover--Dora aiming his board at some dude & nailing him...Surfing with the Spahn Ranch Boys! Very Happy

For the record, Norm & I already hashed this out in private. There is no feud between us on this, as far as I know. However, I didn't see his suggestion for a song title until today & thought I'd have some fun with it.

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josheboy wrote:

bigtikidude wrote:

Somebody sign that boy to a record contract now!

But it has (YUCK!) lyrics...

I'll wait for the instro version Big Razz

a 45, vocal on side A,
instro version on side B.

I'd buy it.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Brian wrote:

Tony says the occasion was his cousin's wedding.

Was gonna say, looks like someone's backyard!

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bigtikidude wrote:

WhorehayRFB wrote:

shivers13 wrote:

I think Whorehay needs to write the tune, "I hate
Miki
Dora". That'll be the only verse in the song over
and
over.

I hate Miki Dora
He shoved me off my board
Painted a swastika on it
Then stole my passport

I hate Miki Dora
He's an evil troll
I hate Miki Dora
But I love Greg Noll

Somebody sign that boy to a record contract now!

Jump on it, Whorehay! You've got Jeff's endorsement! Although, the lyrics need some work. I still think it should just be you yelling "I Hate Miki Dora" over and over kinda like Surfin' Bird. Big Grin

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