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Carl Wilson's Sound
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Posted on Oct 24 2006 08:32 PM
Okay, I am not looking to get flamed by brining up the beach boys, but I think Carl had a pretty nice clean sound. For the most part it sounded pretty dry. I know he used a Jag for a lot fo the early shows. Recordings I think he used strats and jags, until the later years. Anyone know anythign about what else influenced his sound? Amps? Reverb? Effects? Etc... Sorry if this is not an appropriate place to bring up the beach boys. |
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1778 Star, Idaho. Formerly lived in Surf City USA.
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 12:32 AM
Carl was simply brilliant. Note the dual showmans & reverb tanks in the background. |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1054 Chicago IL.
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 08:42 AM
I think Carl is plugged into the Bandmaster with the cab and head with mismatching grill cloths. Brian is probably plugged into that Showman. A Jaguar + flatwound strings + a little reverb = Carl's tone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31NNd1rb6Z8 Listen to the beginning. It's that beautiful Jaguar sustainless thud that so many would try to stay away from during the late 60s early 70s. —"as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there" https://www.facebook.com/reluctantaquanauts/ |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3785 tn
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 09:24 AM
He made that Rickenbacker sound pretty nice too. Carl Wilson rules, he could sure sing too. —http://www.satanspilgrims.com |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 09:55 AM
Thanks Bill. That is one of my favorite Beach Boys songs. |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2309 Stockholm, Sweden 
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 10:18 AM
I wouldn't call the "sustainless thud" beautiful but that's what makes the Jaguar the ultimate surf guitar! — |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5097 San Francisco
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 10:47 AM
I never noticed before... was Dennis a lefty, forced to play a righty kit? Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp |
Joined: Jun 17, 2006 Posts: 1010 Bay City, Michigan
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 11:14 AM
carl in my opinion had by far the best sound in the entire genre of rock n roll. a lot of the beach boys songs are corny (ten little indians, the shift, ect.) but they have some killer solos. his solos are unmatched, not really by talent because they're not that hard to play ro write, but i think they sound cool as hell. carl even wrote some really good instros, take surf jam or stoked for example. does anyone know what guage he used? of course, when you play anything on the e or b string on a strat it makes it sound a lot tighter for some reason, so amybe his string werent extraordinarily big like it sounds. — |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3785 tn
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 01:24 PM
Yeah. And I think he was better than people gave him credit for. He definitely "rocked out" more than anyone else in the band, plus was the heartthrob. I like to say he was the hardest hitting drummer in rock and roll until Keith Moon and John Bonham came along. —http://www.satanspilgrims.com |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 01:49 PM
I agree. |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1054 Chicago IL.
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 01:57 PM
How can you not call that sustainless thud beautiful? Go buy a Les Paul you hippie! "as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there" https://www.facebook.com/reluctantaquanauts/ |
Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 796 Oakland |
Posted on Oct 25 2006 03:35 PM
I agree. I've seen some old videos of him rockin out and just wailing on the drums. He also had the hair to shake back and forth. —Science friction burns my fingers. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2309 Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 04:26 PM
I think it's funny everytime someone complain that the Jaguar is low on sustain when that's actually one of the things that makes it great. Same thing goes for early 60s fuzz sounds. Prior to buying a Maestro Fuzz-Tone reissue, I read a review posted by a classic rock fan, who thought something was wrong with his box since it had a lot less sustain than the natural ringing of the strings |
Joined: Apr 21, 2006 Posts: 852 Connersville, Indiana, USA
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 06:49 PM
For some weird reason, playing "Miserlou" through a fuzz box seems like it'd be a neat idea. Kinda Dick Dale meets The Music Machine. That, or I could play "Talk, Talk" with tremelo picking? Matt —Fast Cars & Loud Guitars! |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2063 Virginia, USA
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 08:14 PM
Sustain is for sissies. I love Carl's tone. I've always said that 2-note solo in "Don't Worry Baby" is one of my all time faves. —Paul |
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Joined: Jul 05, 2006 Posts: 969
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 08:21 PM
they didn't call him Carl "Lead Guitar" Wilson for nothing |
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Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1778 Star, Idaho. Formerly lived in Surf City USA.
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 10:13 PM
I was at this one. I even got paid to be there. Lot's of stuff going on they couldnt show on TV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTFEvW-6zSw Last edited: Oct 26, 2006 08:02:06 |
Joined: May 16, 2006 Posts: 91 Florianopolis SC Brazil |
Posted on Oct 25 2006 10:18 PM
Hell yeah. Love to hear him WAIL on the sax on "Shut Down"... wonder how many takes he screwed to get that two-note solo right... http://www.myspace.com/cochabambas |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan
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Posted on Oct 25 2006 10:21 PM
I highly suspect that was the work of someone like Tommy Tedesco or some other studio cat, not Carl Wilson. Sorry, skeeter! (But maybe I'm wrong...) The first true surf tune that I think really made an impression on me was the Beach Boys' version of Moon Dawg. I learned it note-for-note back in '87 or so. I had the Challengers best-of by then, too, but I really dug the Beach Boys, maybe even a bit more. I used to daydream of someday having my own surf/instro band - and playing on some Carribean island for hotel guests! I guess my fantasies didn't quite turn out as I imagined, but probably for the better! Ivan —Ivan |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3785 tn
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Posted on Oct 26 2006 08:44 AM
I don't have my Beach Boys day by day book here at work, but it lists the studio personnel on each track. Carl is on practically every song! Even when Carl was out touring with the band, the parts would be saved for him, though he was often tracked alongside TT, Carol Kaye, Glen Campbell, Jerry Cole, Barney Kessell, and Billy Strange and its hard to tell now who played what. But for that period 1964 into 1965, Brian has just started to use the Wrecking Crew on mostly drums, basses, and keyboards-most of the guitars are still played by Carl. http://www.satanspilgrims.com |
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