Kman1
Joined: Aug 29, 2008
Posts: 694
Surf City
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 08:53 PM
This weekend, I'm going to Guitarcenter for their clearence sale. I'm trying the Classic Series 50s Strat, and the Classic Player Jazzmaster. A question, can a Jazzmaster do Dick Dale sounds? I'm just curious and would like to know, with Strats, I can get my an early Ventures tone, the one from Walk Don't Run and Sleepwalk, but they can't do the '70s stuff. Thanks.
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Sonichris
I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play.
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Ron-Rhoades
Joined: Aug 19, 2006
Posts: 958
Kekaha, Kauai, Hawaii
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 10:32 PM
This is what DD uses to make sound. 
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Ron-Rhoades
Joined: Aug 19, 2006
Posts: 958
Kekaha, Kauai, Hawaii
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 10:32 PM
Duh.......
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cherndog
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Posts: 23
Phoenix, Ariz.
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 11:12 PM
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seafoam_johnny
Joined: Jul 27, 2007
Posts: 1099
4 faces. (Where the buffalo roam)
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 11:18 PM
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 11:29 PM
Kman1
This weekend, I'm going to Guitarcenter for their clearence sale. I'm trying the Classic Series 50s Strat, and the Classic Player Jazzmaster. A question, can a Jazzmaster do Dick Dale sounds? I'm just curious and would like to know, with Strats, I can get my an early Ventures tone, the one from Walk Don't Run and Sleepwalk, but they can't do the '70s stuff. Thanks.
Yes, a Jazzmaster can get a Dick Dale sound. My choice would be to get the Jazzmaster. I'm a big fan of the tones you can get out of one of those. So, to tease the other responders in the thread, who's advice are you going to take? Mine, or people who can't even answer the simple question you asked? Ouch... That was mean. But seriously Jazzmasters are great guitars and can get great surf tones. I also love them as all around guitars.
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11077
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 11:42 PM
 Yeah but does it come with a "poodle plush" guitar case?
Try the guitars out yourself and then decide.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
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Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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Mr_Reverb63
Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 919
San Pablo, CA
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Posted on Sep 25 2008 11:48 PM
i like both strat and jazzmaster.
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Mustard_Man
Joined: Jan 16, 2007
Posts: 100
England
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 04:55 AM
there's no right or wrong answer, try both out, see what you like to play on and then make an objective and informed decision to buy a strat..
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2778
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 08:15 AM
Ah just step up to the plate and buy one of each...... but then if you're going to buy two guitars.........two Jazzmaster makes good sense to me................one can never have too many and you can quote me on that one..........ed
— Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?
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MadScientist
Joined: Jan 17, 2008
Posts: 2188
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 08:40 AM
I am slowly being turned to the Jazzmaster side of the force, but I think I will always be Strat man at heart. That's a tough call.
The good news: Either way you win.
Dick Dale's sound is a great STRAT sound, but the tone that a Jazzmaster can get is downright moving. I'm probably going to catch crap for this, but I think that the Strat is a little more versatile. If that's what you're looking for, go with the Strat.
I'm with Eddie.... go wild and get both. Go for a standard MIM Strat and the player Jazzmaster. That would be a good day.
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senioruga
Joined: Sep 26, 2007
Posts: 25
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 09:03 AM
JMHO, but if you are looking at the Classic Players Jazzmaster, I'd look for a Classic Players 50s or 60s strat instead. I played it and didn't really care for the Classic Players JM - especially the changes to the trem location on the body and the bridge. The changed location of the tremolo really bothered me aesthetically. Again, just my two cents and if you've played one and like it, you should go for it.
If you keep your eyes open, you can find a classic players 50s strat for less than a new Classic Player 50s strat and it comes in Shoreline Gold, which is similar to Dick Dale's. I'll admit that he was the reason that I went with Shoreline Gold. I picked up a used one that basically could have passed for new (not a scratch on it and all case candy) for less than $600. Plus, the Classic Player 50s strat has the American pickups and upgraded tremolo and locking vintage tuners.
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Rob_J
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
Posts: 500
Sacto, CA
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 01:53 PM
I'm lucky enough to have both, and I alternate between my Daphne Blue Classic 50's Strat and my Surf Green AVRI Jazzmaster. When my band gigs, I often switch between sets, just for a little variety.
I honestly can't say one is better than the other. They are different guitars, but both great for different reasons.
I actually like the trem bar better on the Strat and the smaller Strat body is a bit more comfortable. The JM has great tone, though, and while I often have to tweak the Strat to get the right tone, the JM's tone is always good.
If you can only choose one, I'd say your budget will be the deciding factor. If you can find a Classic Strat used, like I did, the price will be significantly less.
If money is no object...well, in that case, why choose...get them both. (not to say that money was no object for me. It took a lot of saving and sacrifice for me to acquire the two that I own).
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Rob_J
Joined: Sep 29, 2007
Posts: 500
Sacto, CA
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 01:59 PM
I might also mention that you can get great surf tones out of either guitar. The amp you play through will be as big, if not a bigger, factor for getting good surf tone. The guitar is only a part the battle.
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Kawentzmann
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 1062
Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 02:58 PM
Get a Jag.
— The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann
You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.
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Kman1
Joined: Aug 29, 2008
Posts: 694
Surf City
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 03:03 PM
Rob_J
I might also mention that you can get great surf tones out of either guitar. The amp you play through will be as big, if not a bigger, factor for getting good surf tone. The guitar is only a part the battle.
It'll be used w/ a BFDR amp, I'll try them out and tell you guys what I think.
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Sonichris
I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play.
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2778
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 03:53 PM
Ya, Eddie has a Jag too........ Every now and then I'll carry that bad boy out to a Surge! show, especially if it's in a bar where the neon lights can drive the old Jazzmaster crazy. I'm on the other side of this point in that I really like the JM and Jag's trems. I think the Strat's trem is what I've never warmed up to. To me, the offset's have a more friendly and civilized one. But then that's just my opinion and even I know that doesn't count for much.
I played a Strat from June 1965 till June 1967 and I never did bond with it. Broke a lot of strings with that tremolo too. To me the Jazzmaster (with Katcher Kreated bridge saddles) has a really solid feel that I've never felt in a Strat with trem.
Now the hardtails are a completely different story. A hard tail Strat with a bucker in the lead position would be one exceptional gee-tar.
As best as I can tell it's the player anyway.
ed
— Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?
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dannylectro
Joined: Aug 18, 2008
Posts: 373
Orange, CA
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 04:39 PM
I've tried out both of those guitars and I would definately say the Classic Series 50's Strat is WAY better than the Classic Series Jazzmaster. The only decent new Jazzmasters I would recommend are the American Vintage Reissue series. The made in Mexico 50's Strat is actually a pretty cool guitar for the dough... 
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 07:58 PM
If guitars were women..
Stratocaster = Nastassja Kinski
Jazzmaster = Joann worley
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HBkahuna
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 1778
Star, Idaho. Formerly lived in Surf City USA.
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Posted on Sep 26 2008 08:34 PM
The AVRI's are really nice for both the Strat & Jazzmaster. I own one of each. My advice is play each. Play several of each. Go with what sounds & feels best to you. You will not regret going with a AVRI.
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