Abe
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 02:54 PM
zak
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If anyone here knows who "Wes Montgomery" is
I would hope so!
FenderShowman63
I was just wondering if the way he plays guitar is a proper technique? He uses his thumb. I'm pretty sure its not. He probably just picked up the guitar and started to teach himself like that.
Wes had an unorthodox picking style, and it is definitely responsible for his distictive tone. That is an idiosyncratic technique for sure, although Wes was an influential enough player to inspire a whole bunch of other guitarists to imitate his thumb style.
 Yeah man a lot of folks copy his style, I love it. And his tone is great, although he would sound really good even with out an amp. Here's another cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOm17yw__6U&feature=related also a very good song by Thelonious Monk.
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rockfish
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 02:55 PM
I just noticed that Zak is canadian, that explains his poor attitude and dumb ass opinions. I wonder if jake is canadian also?
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zak
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 02:57 PM
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Abe
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:01 PM
 Geez "RockFish" relax, Just because zak is from Canada that doesn't make him an asshole. Try not to take people's personal opinions up the Ass or they will always bother you.
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Stormtiger
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:03 PM
rockfish
I just noticed that Zak is canadian, that explains his poor attitude and dumb ass opinions. I wonder if jake is canadian also?
What rock do you live under Rockfish, where it is acceptable to bash an entire country when you can't think of anything intelligent to say. How would you explain your opinions and attitude?
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zak
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:04 PM
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Abe
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:08 PM
 He must really have a grudge against you to just attack you outta nowhere like that. By the way Jake is Seattle.
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mom_surfing
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:13 PM
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WR
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:16 PM
CaptainSensible
Nope. I have tried using a toe though.
hahaha. not.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=iI9WjsmuXxk&feature=related
watch Tielman at work. 2:40 into the song. his thumb is worth watching as well.
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Ruhar
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:30 PM
Wes is godly that's for sure. Oh and thanks rockfish for further cementing the American ethnocentric stereotype abroad. 
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rockfish
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:53 PM
zak
rockfish
I just noticed that Zak is canadian, that explains his poor attitude and dumb ass opinions. I wonder if jake is canadian also?
And this is coming from the mind of the distinguished philosopher that said:
rockfish
I am so glad the Ventures got in the hall of fame. Now they can go away and die and take their suck ass music with them! I fart in their general direction.
So how are your showman clones coming along? Did you purchase a hammer and some wood screws yet?
He decided to make deluxe reverbs instead, and i stand by my ventures comment. I feel sick just thinking about their music.
The good news is, i just bought a new gretsch!!!! Once i get some play time on it i will come back here and tell you guys how much better it is than a jazzmaster.
Good day,,eh!
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Abe
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 03:58 PM
Ryan did you check out that "Jingles" video? Ok now here's a band that I really like that I'm sure the guitar player is a Wes Montgomery fan. I know that nobody here is gonna like it but fuck it, check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjqEA37CSY Just go straight to the guitar solo at 3:03. Or watch the whole video, Man these guys make some groovy tunes
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 04:03 PM
rockfish
I just noticed that Zak is canadian, that explains his poor attitude and dumb ass opinions. I wonder if jake is canadian also?
Wow... I'm going to help you out. You are insulting Zak and myself for being rude. First off, you insulted all of Canada and then you said he had dumb ass opinions. Poor attitude, most certainly for Zak and myself. I think you will find we are quite likable people and fun to chat with if you joined us in the chat room. Back to the point. You have stooped to the same level as Zak and I, only we don't insult nationalities and call people dumb asses.
People, Zak is just one hell of a debater, not an asshole. Also, he is right most of the time. The man has a ton of experience and really knows his gear. As for me, sorry that I do not tell you that you bought great gear when you actually bought gear that I consider to be inferior. That is my opinion and I suggest you back your opinion up instead of thinking I'm an asshole. Disagreeing on guitar gear doesn't mean we are attaching you as a person. I'm sure 90% of you are quite lovely in person.
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Ruhar
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 04:09 PM
FenderShowman63
Ryan did you check out that "Jingles" video? Ok now here's a band that I really like that I'm sure the guitar player is a Wes Montgomery fan. I know that nobody here is gonna like it but fuck it, check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjqEA37CSY Just go straight to the guitar solo at 3:03. Or watch the whole video, Man these guys make some groovy tunes
Not yet, I'll check it out when I get home tonight. My fav. Wes stuff comes from his Riverside years, that's for sure. I'm not a huge fan of the Verve stuff although I love "Smokin' At the Half-Note" and much of "Movin' Wes". His version of Caravan on that album is my favorite interpretation of that tune by far!
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Abe
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 04:13 PM
I would say that Zak is a "Master Debater" No but seriously, I've talk to both Jake and Zak on the Chat Room plenty of times. And I can say that they are both really good guys, so now lets all just relax and go back to watching the "Dale Jr." video
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PolloGuitar
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San Francisco
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 04:21 PM
FenderShowman63
I know that nobody here is gonna like it but fuck it, check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjqEA37CSY Just go straight to the guitar solo at 3:03. Or watch the whole video, Man these guys make some groovy tunes
I love that jam, thanks for posting that and the Wes Montgomery stuff. I've had his music on all day now.
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 04:27 PM
FenderShowman63
I would say that Zak is a "Master Debater" No but seriously, I've talk to both Jake and Zak on the Chat Room plenty of times. And I can say that they are both really good guys, so now lets all just relax and go back to watching the "Dale Jr." video
Zak is a good guy, I'm a great guy.
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CaptainSensible
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 05:23 PM
JakeDobner
As for me, sorry that I do not tell you that you bought great gear when you actually bought gear that I consider to be inferior. That is my opinion and I suggest you back your opinion up instead of thinking I'm an asshole. Disagreeing on guitar gear doesn't mean we are attaching you as a person. I'm sure 90% of you are quite lovely in person.
By definition, lay opinions don't need to be backed up, which is probably why you are so loose with yours. In any event, there are many ways to express an opinion without being, how to put it, pretensious.
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wooza
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 05:24 PM
FenderShowman63
so now lets all just relax and go back to watching the "Dale Jr." video
Amen. Four new pages on this in one day? This thread has taken SG101 to a whole new level of pettiness. 
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Brian
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Posted on Sep 17 2008 05:33 PM
rockfish
I just noticed that Zak is canadian, that explains his poor attitude and dumb ass opinions. I wonder if jake is canadian also?
I don't care if you guys tussle in a civil manner about earth shattering topics like picks, pickups, and hand positions. But comments like the above aren't in line with the core values of this site.
One of the highlights of the last few years was my trip to Toronto, and I received nothing but good vibes from Canada and all the Canadian SG101'ers I met. So I consider the above statement a total insult. And yes I even met Zak. Zak can be a bit blunt on the forums, but he's a hell of a guitar player, a super nice guy actually, he knows his stuff, and I'm proud to call him a friend. Am I taking sides on this particular issue? No, I am staying out of it. I just want to point out that you need a certain degree of thickness in your skin to hang out in forums like this. You should not be surprised or annoyed when people suddenly present opinions counter to your own.
Meeting forum people in real life gives you a whole new perspective on things, as I learned from my trip to the SG101 convention. It is far to easy to anonymously throw a big FU to some clown on a forum, sitting in your underwear at your laptop in a dark room. But if you actually meet them and see where they are coming from, it changes everything. Its great we can all meet and talk like this on the site, but you have to give the benefit of the doubt to people a lot more. I struggle with this myself. I also encourage more people to join us in the IRC chat room. Some of the best conversations and exchanges about surf music and gear go on in there.
I'm rambling so I will stop.
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