Duff always wins for the best hardware!

I do a 4 piece kit. the older I get the less I bring.

No pics but I have a round badge Gretsch kit (1958) in Champagne sparkle.
(it was on stage for the drum battle at SG101)

5x14
10x12
16x16
16x20
all Zyldjian cymbals (I've had the same hi-hats for 35 years)
14" hi-hats
18" A- crash ride with rivets
20' A- crash ride
16" medium A- crash

Coated ambassadors on everything except the strainer head, clear thin.

no muffling, anywhere. except a felt strip on the batter head of the Bass drum. which has two heads, no holes.

Let it ring. it's a drum set not a cardboard box.

if I had a nickle for everytime I had a soundguy tell me that my drums wouldn't work for whatever reason in his room... I wear him or her down, they just go with it and at the end of the night tell me how surprized they were that the drums sounded great with the band...I'd be rich.

There's also the story of the sound guy at the ventura county fair that handed me a razor blade to cut a hole in the front bass head for a mic...

I think Surf Drums need to be a lot like Jazz Drums and be able to speak at various levels of intensity and tempos, with dynamics.

Jeff Utterback

Last edited: Aug 23, 2008 00:02:16

BoardwalkerJeff
Let it ring. it's a drum set not a cardboard box.

I think Surf Drums need to be a lot like Jazz Drums and be able to speak at various levels of intensity and tempos, with dynamics.

Jazz drummers are "Da Shit".
"Something cool"
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/joemorello1961.html
and Buddy Rich VS Animal from the Muppets
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichmuppet.html

The Deadbeats

drumuitar
I can't tell from the pic but the cymbal L-arms can either be fixed or adjustable. My Rogers kit (sniff, I miss it) had a telescoping L-arm, but I think you'll find more fixed ones out there.

Yeah Im just wondering cuz I wasn't shure
about those things. Got any pics of your kits?

The Deadbeats

FenderShowman63
Nice huh. Just wondering, does the Shell mount, or ride stand on the B.Drum adjust up and down? I can't really tell.

drumuitar
I can't tell from the pic but the cymbal L-arms can either be fixed or adjustable. My Rogers kit (sniff, I miss it) had a telescoping L-arm, but I think you'll find more fixed ones out there.

The Ludwig arm in the picture does allow for height adjustment (note the wing nut at the elbow) - I installed one of those on my Rogers kit many years back before getting the telescoping swivo-matic version. I think the Ludwig arms would be more durable if you used two mounting brackets instead of one - to avoid stripping which usually occurs (with only one point of contact).

tfj

drumuitar
If you put on the Remo Muffls, the plastic tray with the foam ring (at least thats what they used to call them), you'll totally kill the tone out of toms. No resonance whatsoever. It's roughly the equivalent of hitting a cardboard box. They DO work well for 22" or larger bass drums, depending on the sound your shooting for.

I also use the remo foam rings on my 22 and it sounds great. I always preferred coated ambassadors with clear diplomat bottoms for toms. I'm currently using an old set of Remo black dot CS that I transferred off of my old Mahogany Tama RS kit,good heads for larger drums. image

FenderShowman63
What'd you do to your Rodgers? But yeah my lil' bro needs one for his Ludwig. And I was just wondering cuz I've never seen one of those things up close so im not shure how adjustable it is.

My Rogers arm is fine - the "sniff I miss it" quote was from someone else, but I didn't quote it properly

FenderShowman63

drumuitar
I can't tell from the pic but the cymbal L-arms can either be fixed or adjustable. My Rogers kit (sniff, I miss it) had a telescoping L-arm, but I think you'll find more fixed ones out there.

Yeah Im just wondering cuz I wasn't shure
about those things. Got any pics of your kits?

This pic is probably 10 years old. The bass has the knobby mount for the L-arm but I hadn't got one yet at that point. I have better pictures somewhere that includes the L-arm, but I'm not sure where they're at. I had a silver sparkle Rogers kit before these, with a 20" bass. The red sparkle is a 22", which are a harder to find in the 60s era. This set is fairly closely matched from around 67.

image

Shawn Martin
http://www.drummerman.net
http://www.youtube.com/GKacedrummerman
http://www.facebook.com/drumuitar

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FenderShowman63
And I was just wondering cuz I've never seen one of those things up close so im not shure how adjustable it is.

1966 Ludwig:

Thanks for the Pics of the L-Arm.
But is this Ludwig a DownBeat? Its nice man.
BTW I've been looking for topic on DrumKits here.
Cuz I wanna talk about this stuff, mainly cuz I know
more about drums than Gtrs or basses. And I suck
at the Drums

The Deadbeats

BoardwalkerJeff
Dusty, who is at the top of our scene, borrows a lot from Buddy. I do also but not as advanced as Dusty obviously.

Our little trade off at the SG101 was inspired by the Rich/krupa shows and the Rich/Lewis show.

of course I played the Jerry Lewis part...

Hey, Jerry was no slouch, he could play. I would never do a drum battle, I couldn't even play the part of Gary Lewis.

http://www.satanspilgrims.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553
https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/
http://www.surfyindustries.com

spskins
I would never do a drum battle, I couldn't even play the part of Gary Lewis.

I would be happy to play nearly as good as you. But then, I'm an underachiever. (Just kidding) Your solid time and great feel---knowing what to play and when--is what I am shooting for.

FenderShowman63
But is this Ludwig a DownBeat?

No, this is a "Super Classic" set, sizes:
22" BD,
16" floor tom,
13" mounted tom,
5"X14" Supra-Phonic 400 snare.

And needs script logo BD head and coated somethings all around! I still only play practice pads around the house. Not ready to suck at full volume yet . . .