YES! ok I like Jenn a lot, but the best Mermen show ever wat the Brookdale lodge when Alan came back to honer Phil Dirt... It was MAGIC... I think Jim plays better with Alan pushing him on bass. A great day in surf music!
—THe NEpTuNeS
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 01:04 PM
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5088 San Francisco 
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 06:07 PM
Here is the official word from the Mermenlist: Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp |
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 06:27 PM
Thanks Mr DelMar! I had deleted mine already. We have a day gig in Napa on the 9th Might have to go!!! One of my favorite bass players. Blew up a SVT at the show last... Arms like popeye, flow for days. —THe NEpTuNeS |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5088 San Francisco
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 07:12 PM
Wish I could be there, Brodway 19 is close to home, and the Merms only do one, maybe 2 shows there a year. Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp |
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 07:30 PM
Bella Winery (Is Healdsburg considered Napa?) Which is where these shots came from: http://www.surfneptune.com/healds.html It's a parade of wild drunkeness and they have a CAVE!!!! 11-4pm I think it may be just for their wine club members. —THe NEpTuNeS |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25478 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 09:10 PM
So I 'm a bit confused, whats with then on again off again of the bass players now? Not that we don't have our fair share of musical chairs down here in Jeff(bigtikidude) —Jeff(bigtikidude) |
Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 813 Boise, ID
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 09:26 PM
I hope I don't sound like a jerk but ever since Jennifer took over the bass spot, the Mermen have gone downhill. Most of their shows have seemed pretty lifeless. Martyn and Jim just haven't sounded the same for several years. This may or may not have anything to do with her... probably isn't her but I hope this'll get them back like they usta be. —Shawn Martin |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25478 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 09:32 PM
I have to say that I never saw them back before Alan left. Jeff(bigtikidude) —Jeff(bigtikidude) Last edited: Aug 28, 2006 17:37:38 |
Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 09:35 PM
"Returning on a regular basis?" Does that mean he's taking over or returning on regular bimonthly intervals? I agree that the Mermen have sounded sluggish for a while. However regular his presence, I hope Allen's return acts as new lifeblood. |
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11039 Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Aug 23 2006 11:42 PM
I find this a bit odd. I had a conversation with Allen maybe 5 weeks ago and he seemed to still harbor quite the grudge against Jim, and spoke with disdain in his voice. Hopefully, they were able to bury the hatchet and reconcile their differences. I do want to say that I've seen Jennifer play many times myself, mostly with the Shitones, and she's a very strong and inventive player, and any band would be very lucky to have her. —Danny Snyder Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 2324 San Jose, Ca.
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Posted on Aug 24 2006 01:19 AM
I'm thrilled to hear that Allen is back in the fold. I, too, Bob S. —Bob |
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Posted on Aug 24 2006 11:06 AM
I love Jenifers playing! really, and she is fun to talk to as well. I just felt like Alan had a way of proding Jim into a much livelier show, part of it could be the jumping around, raising the energy level. I think it is mostly that he is not intimidated by Jim, and the strange thing is we just might benifit from a level of animosity between them. Did Lennon and McCartney get along? —THe NEpTuNeS |
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Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11039 Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Aug 24 2006 04:47 PM
I think Surfneptune has a good point there. Sometimes, the best art is created from not the best motives - jealousy or resentment for instance. Also, sometimes your best songs are written when you're in a bad situation or poor frame of mind. Regarding Jim and Alan, they may play 'better' but I like to see people enjoying themselves on stage, not giving each other dark looks. —Danny Snyder Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5088 San Francisco
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Posted on Aug 24 2006 05:03 PM
I have seen Alan "sub" twice for the Merms over the past few years and he always seems to be enjoying himself. Let's face it, its hard to keep a group of artists or musicians together, always fragile egos and different paths of creative growth. If you can come together onstage for an hour or two and agree to collaborate, that is good enough. As for Jennifer, she needs no defense. She may have been wobbly early on (can you imagine jumping into Allen's shoes?) but she is nothing less than a kick ass bass player. --ferenc —Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp |
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Posted on Aug 24 2006 05:59 PM
Bands are like psycho girlfriends sometimes. Our other bassar player who quit earlier this year was a person that was nearly impossible to colaborate with, he had a tough time sharing. We would work stuff out at practice though. At gigs it turned into a wieird competition thing... he would play the bass on my songs in the wrong position, or hit the strings so hard that they went sharp. Or just play way too loud. And really did not care much about the bass tone. Mature people can put the song first. Then even if you hate each other the song won't suffer for it. —THe NEpTuNeS |
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Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 1618 Ithaca, NY
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Posted on Aug 24 2006 08:39 PM
Jennifer is doubtless a great bass player and I don't think her presence had any direct effect in sabotaging the band's sound. I've personally never seen them live, but from what I've heard on archive.org it sounds like as a whole the band's sounds, tones, and general presence have sorta diminished. If Allen is in fact a dynamic stage presence I hope his return, wether spiteful or cooperative or whatever, can act as a kind of new beginning. Maybe the gang will be inspired to kick it up a notch and maybe even start working on NEW MATERIAL. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 5088 San Francisco
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Posted on Aug 26 2006 12:18 PM
I am really enjoying this thread about The Mermen, the first on SG101 that is talking about there music rather than their worthiness. I agree that new material is essential from them. I know that a few new tunes have been introduced at live shows. I thought that when Jim built his studio in santa Cruz, that a new album would be right around the corner. Apparently he has been mostly working on soundtrack material. Viva Mermen! Ferenc —Buy Speed of Dark @ Bandcamp |
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Posted on Aug 27 2006 12:01 PM
How long did the "Amazing California...." album take? I am glad to hear that JIm is doing soundtracks, I wonder if that pays the bills better than album sales? The debate over there inclussion in the genre is moot in my opinion. if the hard-core trads knew how deep Jim was in surf-music history, they would call him visionary. Not fringe. —THe NEpTuNeS |
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