websurfer
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Posted on Jun 11 2008 05:46 PM
Well I have been listening to the New Dimensions comp--many times now. It is fantastic. I may be preaching to the choir here, as this is no doubt common knowledge among the crowd here. But if you are like me, and still amassing a vintage surf music collection and are sometimes bewildered a little by the choices available and what to buy--I urge you to get this one!
Even though I know some don't like sax and/or keyboards in your surf music (and this has both), it is incorporated really tastefully and musically within the surf style. This band reminds me a little of the Nevigans. I love the tone on these recordings too. Classic splashy reverb. The enthusiasm of the very young musicians is really palpable, with chatter and shouts of "yeah!" and "C'mon!" and the like peppered throughout. Especially on the live tracks.
The booklet is great too, with lots of period pics with Jags and Jazzmasters, blonde amps and matching tanks. Beautiful.
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bots
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Shwa City
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Posted on Jun 11 2008 06:49 PM
The New Dimensions are in my top 5 of OG bands.
Failsafe was recentley used in weird a movie about american mercanaries in afghanistan and evil demons during the final credits. I believe it was called Afghan Knights. The movie really sucked and i was half asleep when the credits started to roll and BAM i was awake again.
I LOVE the live tracks, "hey your off key!!" too the sax player
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websurfer
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Posted on Jun 11 2008 11:31 PM
Cool! 
BTW, I just visited amazon, where I ordered this--and you know how they offer "suggestions" based on your purchases with them? Well here is one, but it's kind of strange:
That's Michael and Jimmy from the same cover shoot for the New Dimensions album. So what do they have to do with the Sentinals? Or am I missing some connection here . .
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Klas
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted on Jun 12 2008 02:32 AM
websurfer
It is fantastic. I may be preaching to the choir here, as this is no doubt common knowledge among the crowd here.
Actually, I think we're only a few on here that really likes them.
As for the "Surfer Girl" album cover, Del-Fi just used a New Dimensions photo which quite understandably totally pissed off the Sentinals 
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Kawentzmann
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Jun 12 2008 02:59 AM
That came about when The New Dimensions negotiated dealing with Bob Keene and maybe Del-Fi already had this shooting financed and thought it might just as well sell the Sentinals. Another great band by the way.
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krupanut
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Austin Texas
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Posted on Jun 12 2008 08:08 AM
JoshHeartless
also, why does the bassist occasionally pick up a guitar? with all due respect to Satan's Pilgrims, but i think 3 guitars is overkill, let alone the fact the in the New Dimensions there is no bass when 3 guitars are being played.
3 guitars isn't overkill, its the Astronauts. 
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newdimensions
Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 08:22 AM
Happened to stumble on this site. . .
I want to thank everyone for remember the band and the music. We were all very young and had a wonderful time playing and recording.
I've been makking records now for almost 50 years - but those were special times.
Again, thanks for thinking of us.
Best, Michael Lloyd
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 09:13 AM
newdimensions
Happened to stumble on this site. . .
I want to thank everyone for remember the band and the music. We were all very young and had a wonderful time playing and recording.
I've been makking records now for almost 50 years - but those were special times.
Again, thanks for thinking of us.
Best, Michael Lloyd
Wow!! Welcome, Michael!!! Great to have you here. We hope you'll stick around.
Ivan
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 09:18 AM
Double Wow! It's great to have you hear Michael! Do you mind hanging out and answering some questions we might have about the New Dimensions?
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JoshHeartless
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Bay City, Michigan
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 10:22 AM
newdimensions
Happened to stumble on this site. . .
I want to thank everyone for remember the band and the music. We were all very young and had a wonderful time playing and recording.
I've been makking records now for almost 50 years - but those were special times.
Again, thanks for thinking of us.
Best, Michael Lloyd
first Eddie B. and now Michael Lloyd?
wow, this place is great.
it's great to see you here, Michael! I'm a big fan!
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Ruhar
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
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San Diego, CA
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 10:50 AM
Yeah, Welcome Michael! Its great to see you on the forum. You'll find quite a few people on here that are huge fans of what you guys did (myself included). 
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Kawentzmann
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 12:52 PM
JoshHeartless
newdimensions
Happened to stumble on this site. . .
I want to thank everyone for remember the band and the music. We were all very young and had a wonderful time playing and recording.
I've been makking records now for almost 50 years - but those were special times.
Again, thanks for thinking of us.
Best, Michael Lloyd
first Eddie B. and now Michael Lloyd?
wow, this place is great.
it's great to see you here, Michael! I'm a big fan!
2nd
— The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann
You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.
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websurfer
Joined: May 14, 2007
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 01:02 PM
This is a nice surprise and a real treat! You are still making new fans, like me.
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bigtikidude
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Jun 30 2008 01:18 PM
Hey Michael,
nice of you to join us here.do you mind answering a few questions for us?
- what was the most kids/people you ever played to, during the New Dimensions years?
- Do you still listen to surf music?
- was it pretty cool to have a record out, to your friends in school.
or did everybody seem to be doin that back then?
Hope you hang around here,
newdimensions
Happened to stumble on this site. . .
I want to thank everyone for remember the band and the music. We were all very young and had a wonderful time playing and recording.
I've been makking records now for almost 50 years - but those were special times.
Again, thanks for thinking of us.
Best, Michael Lloyd
— Jeff(bigtikidude)
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JoshHeartless
Joined: Jun 17, 2006
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Bay City, Michigan
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Posted on Jul 16 2008 07:38 PM
oh snap, Jeff, you got shut down. looks like he dont wanna answer one of your kind, damn longhair.
all in good fun, of course.
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bigtikidude
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Jul 17 2008 01:30 AM
oh well,
I kinda figured he wouldn't hang around.
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newdimensions
Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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Posted on Jul 20 2008 11:52 AM
Big Tiki DUde asked some quesitons:
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Probably the most we played to was 1000 or so. That would have been in some theater or something. Seemed like a lot to me...!
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I listen to all kinds of music - - always have. I work with many different types of artists. I would love to record some real surf music again. Maybe I will.....! With Fender amps and Fender reverb and Fender guitars (with flat wound strings). And a Wrulitzer electric piano. Ludwig drums. Blue sparkle.
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Very very few were making music - - and professionally recording it. I was actually - - so not interested in school. Music was everything. Still is.
Unfortunately I don't have too much time to visit often. Best to all.
So - till then. . . surf's up.
Best, Michael Lloyd
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Tuck
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Denver, CO
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Posted on Apr 11 2010 05:16 PM
JoshHeartless
i don't know about Failsafe, but i know there are more than a couple New Dimension songs that were written by Michael Lloyd and were first recorded by the Original Surfaris. I've only heard a handful of OS songs, so i wouldn't know, but that's what i remember reading from the liner notes in the New Dimensions CD...im too lazy to go dig it out and confirm this.
Actually, going by the liner notes to the Best of the New Dimensions, the New Dimensions material was first recorded for Tony Hilder by the New Dimensions, either live or with Ted Brinson. However, although the New Dimensions versions did come out on LPs, it appears that Hilder had the Original Surfaris learn them and then recorded them with that band. Knowing how expensive recording time was in those days I kind of suspect they had to be learned "out of the studio," on their own time, unless the O.S. were good enough to do an instant cover. I imagine this meant that they had to have some kind of audio copy of the orignal recording, possibly an acetate? I suppose it's also possible that the Original Surfaris learned them from live performances, but I really doubt that in this case.
Of these OS covers, Psyche Out was released at the time on single. Lloyd mentions hearing it playing somewhere and realizing it was his song, but not his version. His version hadn't come out yet, I think. Failsafe was another of these OS covers. I think it only came out on the Big Noise from Waimea compilation in recent times.
Lloyd was obsviously a little annoyed to be treated this way, but being a bright kid from a show business savvy family, he promptly went down and joined ASCAP on the strength of the credits for the record. Hilder was scrupulous about credits, and I think in all or most cases the people he was recording had genuinely given him rights to the songs, although maybe they didn't appreciate what they had done at the time. If you recorded anything good with Hilder you could expect to see it covered, maybe multiple times. (I have an elaborate spread sheet of some of this, based on Blair's discography and other things.)
Hilder did the same thing with the Original Surfaris and three Impacts numbers, Wipeout, Steel Pier, and Beep Beep.
Anyone have any ideas about the steel guitar in the Surfaris covers of the Impacts?
I think Hilder clearly realized that the Original Surfaris were something special and intended to go places with them. Because of the name conflict with the Surfaris it didn't work out.
FWIW, I believe Dalley intends to include several previously uncovered bands in his new version of Surfin' Guitars, including the New Dimensions. They are one of the more perfect surf bands in my opinion, as far as sound. Not necessarily quality of recording, of course, but certainly quality of conception.
Hey Josh, you should definitely order that vinyl disk of OS songs from Priore. It's fabulous. The Bombora release (I have the CD version) is pretty good, too.
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bigtikidude
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Apr 12 2010 02:53 PM
jp
zak
CaptainSpringfield
Klas
How do you experiment with beer?!
Test tubes, beakers, Erlenmeyer flasks. Oh, and a lab coat.
What, you never cut the head off a plastic pink flamingo that you stole off a neighbor's lawn, filled it with beer, and consumed the equivalent of a 6-pack in one gulp?
What did you people do in high school anyway??
I never did that before, but I think that I might try tonight!
how did I miss this, or not remember it,
that is some of the funniest shit I have seen on here in a while.
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Tuck
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
Posts: 3166
Denver, CO
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Posted on Apr 23 2012 12:09 PM
What a great thread! I think the world needs another New Dimensions compilation with more material. Or just re-release the old one with more material. I can't believe their Intoxica haven't been compiled somewhere.
Last edited: Apr 23, 2012 12:16:02
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