What would you do in this situation? (singer)

Rio

Joined: May 22, 2006
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Hamilton, Ontario
Canada

Posted on May 14 2008 08:08 PM

We have a couple of guest vocalists who occasionally appear and do a total of maybe 3 or 4 songs with the Eradicators-- one is in a Wolfman outfit and just howls, the other is a cute female vocalist who can actually sing & dance. Something for everybody, right?

So I don't have a big problem with a singer in principle, but I'm with Zak in having a huge problem with the notion of classic rock

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DennistheMenace

Joined: Dec 29, 2007
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Southeast, Florida

Posted on May 14 2008 09:34 PM

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I'd agree, for the most part, with the 2 band idea - Satan's Pilgrims did it a while back when they formed The Chimps (with Ted singing vocal/frat rock tunes). However, some of my favorite "surf" bands also did vocals - The Trashmen, The Untamed Youth, The Bomboras, The Volcanics, etc, etc, etc. So there is some precedent for doing both within the same band.

Don't forget "the Shadows."

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Rob_J

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Sacto, CA
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Posted on May 15 2008 02:01 PM

Well, at the risk of causing dissension among the ranks, I sent out an email voicing my opinion regarding the addition of vocals in our band.

We have just started to gel as a band, and I'm not really interested in changing direction at this point. There is a year's worth of time and effort invested in what we have.

I hope I have not suddenly become the "bad guy".
Maybe after a few months, and two or three strong instrumental set lists down the road, I might be swayed in another direction, but for the time being, I'm pretty content with what we've got.

I hope my band mates see it the same way. Maybe I'm just being selfish. Maybe it is my own ego that prevents me from being more open. I'd like to think I don't HAVE an ego, but I suppose we ALL do to some extent.

We have a rehearsal tonight, with a new drummer. I guess that will be the point where I find out if any daggers will be thrown in my direction.

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wschart

Joined: Feb 21, 2007
Posts: 4
Columbia, MO

Posted on May 15 2008 02:13 PM

I agree that if you were to add a singer, it would develop into a battle of egos as to whether the band would do instros or vocal music. I you and/or some of your current mates are able or willing to do an occasional vocal, it might work better, especially if you limited your vocals to J&D or BB type stuff, which to many people (at least in the general public) is in the "surf" genre.

You also could maybe do something with a "guest" singer. Someone you work up a short list of songs with and who you call up on stage to sing a few of these on occasion.

I'd have a heart to heart now with your band mates. Express your concern about drifting away from the surf instro thing; find out exactly what they are intending. If they want to get away from the instro thing, then you probably will need to start looking for a new group. If that is the case, make sure you nail down details like who gets to use the current group's name, etc.

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tenderfoot

Joined: Feb 01, 2007
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Ellicott City, Maryland

Posted on May 15 2008 02:27 PM

The Thunderchiefs are IMO one of the best bands at mixing traditional intrumental surf and appropriate vocal songs. And it's not really BB sound either.

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Rob_J

Joined: Sep 29, 2007
Posts: 500
Sacto, CA
United States

Posted on May 15 2008 03:18 PM

Yo, tenderfoot...I just checked out some Thunderchiefs on YouTube. Unfortunately, none of the vids posted include vocals.

The addition of the member in the hula skirt wouldn't have anything to do with your assessment of them as a band, would it?

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Brian

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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
United States

Posted on May 15 2008 03:32 PM

Rob_J please see this thread for some Thunderchief vocal tunes on YouTube.

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Rob_J

Joined: Sep 29, 2007
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Sacto, CA
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Posted on May 15 2008 05:21 PM

Brian,

Thanks for that link.

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tenderfoot

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Ellicott City, Maryland

Posted on May 15 2008 05:33 PM

HULA!

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Rio Joined: May 22, 2006 Posts: 500 Hamilton, Ontario	Posted on May 14 2008 08:08 PM We have a couple of guest vocalists who occasionally appear and do a total of maybe 3 or 4 songs with the Eradicators-- one is in a Wolfman outfit and just howls, the other is a cute female vocalist who can actually sing & dance. Something for everybody, right? So I don't have a big problem with a singer in principle, but I'm with Zak in having a huge problem with the notion of classic rock — http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/rockinrio.delrosa http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/TheHighTides http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/pages/The-Blue-Demons Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on May 14 2008 09:34 PM Double-Crown-Records I'd agree, for the most part, with the 2 band idea - Satan's Pilgrims did it a while back when they formed The Chimps (with Ted singing vocal/frat rock tunes). However, some of my favorite "surf" bands also did vocals - The Trashmen, The Untamed Youth, The Bomboras, The Volcanics, etc, etc, etc. So there is some precedent for doing both within the same band. Don't forget "the Shadows." — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Top
Rob_J Joined: Sep 29, 2007 Posts: 500 Sacto, CA	Posted on May 15 2008 02:01 PM Well, at the risk of causing dissension among the ranks, I sent out an email voicing my opinion regarding the addition of vocals in our band. We have just started to gel as a band, and I'm not really interested in changing direction at this point. There is a year's worth of time and effort invested in what we have. I hope I have not suddenly become the "bad guy". Maybe after a few months, and two or three strong instrumental set lists down the road, I might be swayed in another direction, but for the time being, I'm pretty content with what we've got. I hope my band mates see it the same way. Maybe I'm just being selfish. Maybe it is my own ego that prevents me from being more open. I'd like to think I don't HAVE an ego, but I suppose we ALL do to some extent. We have a rehearsal tonight, with a new drummer. I guess that will be the point where I find out if any daggers will be thrown in my direction. Top
wschart Joined: Feb 21, 2007 Posts: 4 Columbia, MO	Posted on May 15 2008 02:13 PM I agree that if you were to add a singer, it would develop into a battle of egos as to whether the band would do instros or vocal music. I you and/or some of your current mates are able or willing to do an occasional vocal, it might work better, especially if you limited your vocals to J&D or BB type stuff, which to many people (at least in the general public) is in the "surf" genre. You also could maybe do something with a "guest" singer. Someone you work up a short list of songs with and who you call up on stage to sing a few of these on occasion. I'd have a heart to heart now with your band mates. Express your concern about drifting away from the surf instro thing; find out exactly what they are intending. If they want to get away from the instro thing, then you probably will need to start looking for a new group. If that is the case, make sure you nail down details like who gets to use the current group's name, etc. Top
tenderfoot Joined: Feb 01, 2007 Posts: 308 Ellicott City, Maryland	Posted on May 15 2008 02:27 PM The Thunderchiefs are IMO one of the best bands at mixing traditional intrumental surf and appropriate vocal songs. And it's not really BB sound either. Top
Rob_J Joined: Sep 29, 2007 Posts: 500 Sacto, CA	Posted on May 15 2008 03:18 PM Yo, tenderfoot...I just checked out some Thunderchiefs on YouTube. Unfortunately, none of the vids posted include vocals. The addition of the member in the hula skirt wouldn't have anything to do with your assessment of them as a band, would it? Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19265 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on May 15 2008 03:32 PM Rob_J please see this thread for some Thunderchief vocal tunes on YouTube. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Rob_J Joined: Sep 29, 2007 Posts: 500 Sacto, CA	Posted on May 15 2008 05:21 PM Brian, Thanks for that link. Top
tenderfoot Joined: Feb 01, 2007 Posts: 308 Ellicott City, Maryland	Posted on May 15 2008 05:33 PM HULA! Top

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