JetBlue
Joined: May 30, 2006
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Cool, CA
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Posted on Aug 01 2006 03:25 PM
Was the Jazzmaster ever made with 3 pickups (the big flat single coils)? I found some pictures of Mel (Meshugga Beach Party/MachIV) with a shoreline gold JM with 3 pups and another pic with a blue (maybe green) one.
As on this page
What's the scoop on this guitar? I've never seen one before. Is it a custom?
Mel? Danny? Ferenc?
— Don
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sidewalksurf
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 243
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Posted on Aug 01 2006 03:36 PM
It's custom...dig the 3 pickup jag too -- very cool.
http://www.jagandjazz.com/jagandjazz/jmaster.html
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Aug 01 2006 03:38 PM
Yeah, Mel's a maniac! Very cool.
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JetBlue
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Cool, CA
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Posted on Aug 01 2006 03:53 PM
Wow, that was quick! Thanks guys. I did some reading at a couple Jazzmaster pages but had not found Mel's guitar page.
— Don
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MelWaldorf
Joined: Mar 03, 2006
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Posted on Aug 01 2006 04:26 PM
Hey guys, I'm glad you all like my 3 pickup Jazzmaster. It's one guitar that has had several iterations - first surf green, then sherwood green, and currently gold. It's a parts guitar, with a '66 neck, a '62 body, and pickups from '63 and '64.
I first got the idea in late 1997, when I realized that a middle pickup would fit between the stock pickups. It came together when I visited California over New Years 1998 - I was looking to buy a set of vintage Jazzmaster pickups. The first place I found one and bought it; at the next place I found two and bought them. So the fates encouraged me. If I remember correctly, I initially wired it up at Tom Stanton's house.
Initially I wired it up with a strat 5-way switch set up to select the following positions: neck, neck + bridge, bridge, bridge + middle, middle. Recently, with the help of Dave Wronski, I got a Bass VI style 4-switch plate, and wired it up with individual on/offs for each pickup plus a Jaguar style thin switch.
On the Jaguar theme, I also installed a Jaguar mute. I had to file down the bridge side mounts for the bridge pickup, but other than that it fits and functions. I have to say, Leo Fender must have considered this as it all fits just right.
In addition to my Jazzmaster, I installed a middle pickup in a Jazzmaster for Zak Izbinsky of the Treblemakers. That one we wired up with two three-way switches. I've seen pictures of one other, made by a guy in Europe. It has two three-way switches plus some type of phase switch. I tried to get the wiring schematic, but the guy with the guitar didn't know and was unwilling to open up the guitar.
I've seen a number of Jazzmasters with middle pickups, usually Strat pickups. It doesn't look quite right to me.
I also installed a third pickup in both my Jaguars. I like the tonal versatility it adds to these guitars. I like the looks too, especially on the Jazzmaster - a wall of pickups!
Mel
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JetBlue
Joined: May 30, 2006
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Cool, CA
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Posted on Aug 01 2006 04:52 PM
Mel, thanks for the reply and info. Very cool guitars and clever mods. I love the idea of a separate switch for each pickup.
One question; are all three pickups of the same polarity?
— Don
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MelWaldorf
Joined: Mar 03, 2006
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Posted on Aug 01 2006 05:23 PM
on all the guitars, I've used two neck pickups and one bridge pickup.
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90
Joined: May 16, 2006
Posts: 91
Florianopolis SC Brazil
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Posted on Aug 02 2006 09:37 AM
Interestingly enough, Giannini, the biggest guitar manufacturer in Brazil used to make a 3-pickup "jazzmaster" guitar called Gemini. They were good guitars considering everything, but they´re hard to find these days.
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Alexander
Joined: Jul 10, 2006
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Posted on Aug 11 2006 06:53 AM
90
Interestingly enough, Giannini, the biggest guitar manufacturer in Brazil used to make a 3-pickup "jazzmaster" guitar called Gemini. They were good guitars considering everything, but they´re hard to find these days.
Giannini Gemini 62/64 Pics !!!! very Cool guitar!!!!!!
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PolloGuitar
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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San Francisco
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Posted on Aug 11 2006 09:25 AM
Mel,
Where's that photoshop'd pic you were telling me about with your
Jag and 12 pickups?
--fd
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90
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Florianopolis SC Brazil
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Posted on Aug 11 2006 11:29 AM
I know the lucky owner of that yellow Gemini. It´d be happier in my hands (the guitar, not him )
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MelWaldorf
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Posted on Aug 13 2006 09:29 PM
with 3 pickups, then 4 pickups, and finally, 10 pickups!
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DannySnyder
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Aug 13 2006 09:38 PM
Mel, you left out the oft forgotten 'nut pickup'.
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Aug 14 2006 08:05 AM
That's great. I remember seeing Spinal Tap live on TV at one of those big charity concerts, and Nigel had a guitar with about 10 humbuckers on it, just like that. Oh and he also had a speedometer on it.
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bigtikidude
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Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Aug 14 2006 02:59 PM
Steve Soest from the Torquays needs one of Mels 10 pick up guitars.
As when they do ghost riders in the sky, towards the end he picks behind the bridge to get these wierd ghosty sounding notes.
Maybe that would help.
Dave from the INsects would probably do well with one these too, as he strums the strings behind the bridge or the strings above the nut in a few songs.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
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gregorynicoll
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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Posted on Aug 15 2006 10:10 AM
I once saw Toby Marriott -- the son of heavy rock legend Steve Marriott -- playing in a band called Pimlico at little dive bar in Atlanta. Throughout the whole set, Toby used what appeared to be an original '60s Jazzmaster with three of the classic "soap bar" pickups mounted on its tortoise shell faceplate.
The band's manager assured me that this guitar had originally belonged to Steve Marriott, who had ordered the modification. (I have no idea if this is true, but it's what he said, anyway.)
Odd -- I don't usually associate Humble Pie with a surf sound, but....
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Fripperton
Joined: Aug 14, 2006
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Posted on Aug 16 2006 08:36 PM
The Sax player in a Surf Band I was in was a luthier who worked for Rickenbacker and Jackson over the years. He added a 3rd pickup to his 61 Jazzmaster and used the extra switch and roller knobs as indiviual controls so that he had independant control over the middle pickup and could add it whnever he wanted.
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RobbieReverb
Joined: Feb 28, 2006
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San Jose, Ca.
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Posted on Aug 17 2006 12:25 AM
Steve Marriott sure didn't go for a surf sound in Humble Pie, but
he was very fond of , and known to play, Moserites (as well as
Epiphones & Gibsons). I never saw him use a Fender, but it's a
cool story that he was into Jazzmasters.
Bob S.
gregorynicoll
Toby used what appeared to be an original '60s Jazzmaster with three of the classic "soap bar" pickups mounted on its tortoise shell faceplate.
The band's manager assured me that this guitar had originally belonged to Steve Marriott, who had ordered the modification. (I have no idea if this is true, but it's what he said, anyway.)
Odd -- I don't usually associate Humble Pie with a surf sound, but....
— Bob
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