JeffLeites
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Posted on Apr 13 2008 02:31 PM
I'm on vacation, and considering playing Shake N Stomp at an open jam at a local blues joint later this week (assuming that they'll go for surf). I figure it's an easy tune to get some backup on since it's basically just a 12 bar I IV V progression in "C" without a turnaround. Here's the problem, I've only played the lead, and I'm not sure about the chords in one place. In a normal 12 bar progression, you have "C" for 4 bars, "F" for 2, "C" for 2, "G" for 1, "F" for 1, and without a turnaround, "C" for the last 2. When the Shanke N Stomp riff is played over the "G" to "F" part, in sounds to me like the "G" should be played for 2 bars instead of changing to "F". There is a "G" note being played there. Is that right? And when the solos are played, it sounds like the "F" chord should be played. I want to be able to give the other guys the right info.
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mom_surfing
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Posted on Apr 13 2008 03:32 PM
i hope i'm not wrong as i know the lead to this also. from the jon and the nightriders version:
Cm / Cm / Cm / Cm
Fm / Fm / Cm / Cm
G7 / G7 / Cm / Cm
the lead uses notes from the Cm pentatonic scale (8th fret) what i hear is:
Cm / Cm / Cm / Cm
Fm / Fm / C m/ Cm
G7 / Fm / Cm / Cm
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JeffLeites
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Posted on Apr 13 2008 03:47 PM
Thanks Mom. That's how I hear it too. I don't know if I'll be able to get the backup guys to do it right if they've never heard it before.
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JeffLeites
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Posted on Apr 15 2008 11:36 AM
I got the go ahead to play it at the jam.
I was listening to it again, and I realized that the C and F are minor chords, at least during the main melody.... not sure about the G. ????????? Also not sure if they are minor during the licks. ???????
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turtlesallthewaydown
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Posted on Apr 15 2008 12:59 PM
JeffLeites
I got the go ahead to play it at the jam.
I was listening to it again, and I realized that the C and F are minor chords, at least during the main melody.... not sure about the G. ????????? Also not sure if they are minor during the licks. ???????
If there's a B natural note in the melody during that G chord, the G chord is probably major.
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JeffLeites
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Posted on Apr 15 2008 01:12 PM
Nope! It's a Bb, just like in a Gm chord. G C D Eb D C Bb G.
Edit - The more I listen to it, the more it sounds like the chords are Cm, Fm, and G major. You can hear the complete tune here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzoIVY-QIk (its a half step higher).
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Joelman
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Posted on Apr 15 2008 02:17 PM
Jeff,
Try a G7.
yes the cords are minor. Cm, Fm, G7.
Joel
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mom_surfing
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Posted on Apr 16 2008 07:38 AM
Joelman
Jeff,
Try a G7.
yes the cords are minor. Cm, Fm, G7.
Joel
thanks. i went back and edited my chord chart. i should have known it was a Cm as the solo in the break is in Cm pentatonic.
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JeffLeites
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Posted on Apr 16 2008 10:05 AM
Thanks for all the help. Unless I chicken-out, tonight's the big night. I'll be bringing 'surf" to the Buckingham Blues Bar. http://www.buckinghambar.com/ I've already cleared it with Tommy, the owner.
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JeffLeites
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Posted on Apr 16 2008 11:20 PM
Well it could have gone a little better. I didn't have my own guitar with me, so I used Tommy's. I wasn't use to his setup, and it hung way to low for me, so I had problems getting my trem picking to bounce just right. Tone wise, his amp was set for too much gain, and not enough reverb, but I found that to be of lesser importance than the picking problem. It may have not been the best choice of a tune, since it has a lot of breaks, and the other musicians weren't familiar with the tune. I guess the best part was the audience wasn't familiar with the tune either
I was going to bail when I was done, but one of the other guitar players asked to to play something else. I picked Bulldog because the backup is so standard. Next thing I knew, Tommy was back on stage singing What I'd Say over it, wth the horn section joining in, and a couple of guys blowing harp. I just played some chord accents over it.
I think from now on, I'll stick with playing with guys that know the tunes.
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