DerekMcC
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Posts: 9
Southeast USA
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Posted on Mar 27 2008 11:56 PM
I've read the comments since I joined a couple of days ago and have hit two local guitar stores to try out some strats. I realize that I don't have any real experience with tremolos, but I've played 7 or 8 of them in two days and the trems seemed to all be set up differently. That includes a used American standard from a couple of years ago, a used '84 model (weird trem with springs in the top and no rear routing), two baja's, some standards and a Fender's Classic Player '50s Strat.
The last one felt pretty good to me. It is new for $779 plus 9% sales tax. That seems like a lot for a MIM, but it felt good and might be fun to learn the tremolo stuff on, even though it has a very "non-surfy" two tone sunburst. I have read the standard online reviews; one of which even mentioned surf guitar.
Do any of you have any experience with this model? Is it at the right price point?
It is $20 less than M.F. (if you ignore the tax) and is from a trusted shop two miles from my home.
Thanks in advance for your recommendations.
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seafoam_johnny
Joined: Jul 27, 2007
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 12:15 AM
DerekMcC
I've read the comments since I joined a couple of days ago and have hit two local guitar stores to try out some strats. I realize that I don't have any real experience with tremolos, but I've played 7 or 8 of them in two days and the trems seemed to all be set up differently. That includes a used American standard from a couple of years ago, a used '84 model (weird trem with springs in the top and no rear routing), two baja's, some standards and a Fender's Classic Player '50s Strat.
The last one felt pretty good to me. It is new for $779 plus 9% sales tax. That seems like a lot for a MIM, but it felt good and might be fun to learn the tremolo stuff on, even though it has a very "non-surfy" two tone sunburst. I have read the standard online reviews; one of which even mentioned surf guitar.
Do any of you have any experience with this model? Is it at the right price point?
It is $20 less than M.F. (if you ignore the tax) and is from a trusted shop two miles from my home.
Thanks in advance for your recommendations.
Go here young man http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-50s-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar?sku=510136
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HBkahuna
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Star, Idaho. Formerly lived in Surf City USA.
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 01:11 AM
Seems a bit high for a MM. I paid $800 for my American 57 reissue. Epic tone.
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Spud
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Posts: 666
Oz
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 03:02 AM
Well out here in the Antipodes that sounds like a bargain, we're paying upwards of $1,000 AU - about $1,100 US for a MIM strat.
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estreet
Joined: Mar 17, 2007
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United Kingdom
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 05:08 AM
Hmmm .. Gear in the UK is expensive but if you shop around a MIM Strat or Tele can cost less than 500 USD. I had to pay around 1700 USD for my US 'Phat' Tele though.
A CIJ Jag is about 1100 USD here. Personally, I've never played a MIM guitar I thought was any good.
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MadScientist
Joined: Jan 17, 2008
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Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 08:43 AM
I'm personally a big fan of the 2-tone sunburst. It's such a classic look, and not something you see all of the time.
As for the trems on the Strats, there are basically 2 different kinds: The Vintage 6 screw, and the 2 post American Std. I don't have a lot of experience with the vintage trems, but I play an American Standard and love it. I don't believe it's a standard option, but mine also has a tremsetter in the back of the guitar between the springs. It's essentially makes sure that it always returns to tune after a trem dip (some I do a LOT). This might help with your tremolo issues. Do a search on Musician's Friend and you'll see it. I might also recommend trying your basic standard MIM Strat. I think that they are the perfect Fender "starter" guitar. You can grab one for right around $400 USD, and feel OK taking it apart and tweaking it to see what you like.
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DerekMcC
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Posts: 9
Southeast USA
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 11:49 AM
seafoamjohnny_
Go here young man http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-50s-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar?sku=510136
Thanks, I like this one:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?cpd=0OEY&doc_id=99371&base_pid=510136&index=3
It's description is
"Play a timeless classic!
The Fender '50s Stratocaster Electric Guitar is a reissue that captures the real feel of the Buddy Holly-era Strat. Its deep body contours, characteristic V-shaped maple neck, vintage-style hardware, classic colors, and aged plastic parts all lend authenticity to the Strat that helped birth rock 'n' roll.
Fender Classic Series '50s Stratocaster Electric Guitar Features:
V-shaped maple neck
Vntage-style hardware
Classic colors
Aged plastic parts
Fender Classic Series"
The one I was looking at was:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?cpd=0OEY&doc_id=99371&base_pid=512766&index=1
It's description is
"Designed by Fender Custom Shop Master Builder, Dennis Galuszka.
The Classic Player '50s Stratocaster guitar features an alder body, a maple neck with a 9.5" radius, 21 medium jumbo frets and Gotoh vintage-style locking tuning machines. 57/62 vintage-style single-coil pickups (reverse wound/reverse polarity middle pickup) with a 5-way switch and custom pickup switching offer distinct voicings, The electric guitar's custom 2-point vintage-style tremolo along with the Gotoh tuners let you whammy wildly while locking in your intonation.
Fender Classic Player '50s Stratocaster Electric Guitar Features:
Designed by Custom Shop Master Builder Dennis Galuszka
Alder body
Maple neck with a 9.5" radius
21 medium jumbo frets
Gotoh vintage-style locking tuning machines
57/62 vintage-style single-coil pickups (reverse wound/reverse polarity middle pickup)
Custom 2-point vintage-style tremolo
5-way switch
and custom switching.
Fender Classic Player '50s"
So you don't think the latter is worth the extra $100?
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Last edited: Mar 28, 2008 17:09:53
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KingKahuna
Joined: Mar 06, 2008
Posts: 21
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 12:00 PM
Hi Derek
The guitar you have been looking at is not a MM Classic Players Strat It is the Fender Classic Series '50s Stratocaster Electric Guitar they are a bit different on the specs the 50s has a 7.5 neck radius and the Players has a 12 neck radius and a 2 post trem. I have both types and they are great players and are value for money if it feels and plays ok then go for it. I have no regrets about my two.
Have a good day
Rich 
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DerekMcC
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Posts: 9
Southeast USA
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 05:14 PM
KingKahuna
Hi Derek
The guitar you have been looking at is not a MM Classic Players Strat It is the Fender Classic Series '50s Stratocaster Electric Guitar they are a bit different on the specs the 50s has a 7.5 neck radius and the Players has a 12 neck radius and a 2 post trem. I have both types and they are great players and are value for money if it feels and plays ok then go for it. I have no regrets about my two.
Have a good day
Rich 
Thanks Rich. I will try to make a decision this weekend.
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groucho26
Joined: Jan 23, 2007
Posts: 111
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 07:22 PM
Hi Derek -
I think I can shed some light here - I bought the exact guitar you're looking at (even the 2T burst) a couple months ago. I have to say I was VERY impressed with the quality and setup of this guitar right out of the box (I bought from MF). The 3 piece body is hard to see the seems on, and the finish is excellent, better than the last Amer Strat I had. I wasn't sure about the neck, either the 50s soft-v contour or the maple fretboard, as I usually prefer neither, but I have to say this guitar is very easy to play - this may also be due to the 9.5inch radius, which I do like very much. The gloss finish on the neck is excellent, and I've found my hands work pretty well on it.
The trem was setup perfectly, with low but no buzz action - again, better than most guitars I've bought online or on ebay. The trem works smoothly, but I have to admit I have trouble working the old style 50s short bar smoothly enough for surf - I much prefer the JM/Jag style trem, but that's me. The pickups are Amer vintage pickups - to my ear, very low output but a sweet sound. I didn't buy this guitar for surf, but have tried it with my Showman/Reverb setup, and the neck pickup sounds very good - the bridge is very brittle, but I didn't play with the amp EQ. Pickup selection 4 (from front to back) is interesting as it is the neck and bridge pickup together, NOT the middle/bridge. This is an interesting sound for some surf songs. I think the pickup sounds are a matter of personal taste - these are good pickups, but not really my taste for surf (I am really a JM player for surf, and also have a Tokai Hummingbird reissue that I like).
Finally, the guitar I got is pretty light - 7 3/4 lbs by my home scale. It's very comfortable and makes some great sounds, but I plan to use it mostly for blues and ancient rock. This is mostly because I really like the JM pickups and trem for surf work. But I do think they designed an excellent guitar here, and I haven't always been a Fender fan. Again, the truly amazing thing to me is the fit and finish - I got a great version, and would hope they're being consistent here.
This guitar also comes in shoreline gold, which I like (my JM is that color).
I hope this is helpful - I'm still getting to know this Strat, but I'm pretty impressed so far. Cheers and good luck! 
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groucho26
Joined: Jan 23, 2007
Posts: 111
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 07:26 PM
I should add that what I have is definitely the Classic 50s Player Strat; this is the one that's Custom Shop designed, and says so on the neck plate. Fender's nomenclature and model lineup is really over-complicated, esp on Strats. Clarity is not their strong suit.... 
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DerekMcC
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Posts: 9
Southeast USA
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Posted on Mar 28 2008 10:30 PM
Thanks for the info groucho26
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Mrgreen
Joined: Jun 20, 2007
Posts: 351
Toronto, ON
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Posted on Mar 29 2008 01:38 AM
I think you would find the Classic Series one more comfortable than the Classic Player's one, the fretboard radius is more curved and hence more comfortable and the frets are smaller. It's built more like the original 50s Stratocasters than the Classic Players one. I think the Classic Player's one is worth the extra money.
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Zsch
Joined: Mar 29, 2008
Posts: 9
Slo
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Posted on Mar 29 2008 09:08 AM
I think that you should go for the classic player. I have a classic player 60's and it plays very well. My teacher first thought that it was some kind of an american high end model when he first played it, only the poly finish was bugging him (the AVRI have nitro...). The price isn't really that much higher than that of the normal classic series, if you think about the nice american pickups and better hardware. At least I would definitely go for the classic player between these two. In my country a guitar like that for 630€ is simply a bargain .
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Mr_Reverb63
Joined: Jul 10, 2007
Posts: 919
San Pablo, CA
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Posted on Mar 30 2008 09:31 PM
i also have the classic 50's player strat and it's all i need. The Trem is perfect. it NEVER goes out of tune, the neck just feels great to me add some 13 gauge strings and ur set! i got mine fairly cheap 500 on black friday although i would have gone with a different color but Shoreline gold is just fine. i have been looking for a nice fender tweed case for it though.
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