jefftea
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Posts: 3
Blackpool, England
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 07:02 PM
I 'm not a very good player, (here in England my playing would be described as "crap"), but I really enjoy playing and just love that surfing sound.
What's the best way to learn to play? Book? DVD? Online lesson? I would welcome any tips and advice. Is there a website which is a good source of surf tabs? I need a hellava lot of practice!
Cheers
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CaptainSpringfield
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 4387
Under the Sun
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 07:06 PM
It's fine to rely on tabs at first (and there's a decent selection on SG101), but the best way to improve is to try tabbing out songs you want to learn. You'll develop a good ear for figuring things out, and eventually you won't even need to transcribe anything.
Good luck,
-Warren
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FritzCat
Joined: Sep 11, 2007
Posts: 675
Sonoma, CA
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 08:23 PM
I've had good luck with figuring out the "scale" from Misirlou, transpose it to other keys (and more than one string) and playing that in different positions. Something else I've been playing with a lot lately is to use the notes of these chords in a "scale": open E, F in the 1st position, open G and Am in the open position. Definitely try to figure out some of the simpler songs on your own, it's easier than you think. As far as the sound goes an outboard reverb tank makes a huge difference no matter what amp you're using.
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wooza
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
Posts: 1618
Ithaca, NY
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 10:06 PM
I think the best way to learn has got to be by ear. Warren's right, go ahead and do tabs for a while, get the feel for some songs and let your fingers build some instincts for playing surf, then try and learn the songs you like by really seriously listening to them and figuring them out yourself. That's how I've learned just about every song I can play, and it's really helped build up my skills. Admittedly, this strategy means you'll make really slow forward progress for a long time in the beginning (I'm still pretty much in this phase) but once you really build a sense of how playing surf "works" learning new songs becomes much easier.
Oh yeah, and having a tank will definitely inspire you more.
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JonW
Joined: Mar 07, 2008
Posts: 237
Indiana
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Posted on Mar 26 2008 08:32 AM
Jeff,
I'm in the same boat as you- wanting to learn. Here in the US my playing would probably be described as sub-crap. I'm taking the acaddemic approach and trying it from books:
http://www.surfguitar101.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5172
I've had one now for about a week and I think it's a good approach for starting to get a feel for the general style of things in some surf songs. Playing these tabbed songs along with a CD to hear what they're supposed to sound like... for me, at least, it's a quicker way to learn a little than trying to tab out songs by ear. That wouldn't go well for me at this stage. Although I will give it a shot when I'm a little better.
Good luck.
-Jon
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Mar 26 2008 08:56 AM
This may sound patronizing, but I don't intend for it to sound so.
Don't try to learn surf guitar. Just learn to play guitar first. If you love surf rock then, as you get better that is what you will be able to play. It is near unlikely to just try and learn surf guitar if one has little skill, due to the lead driven nature. I would suggest learn chords first and how to strum a couple tunes before one tries surf. If one can't play a variety of rhythms then there is going to be little hope in playing anything that isn't straight 1/4 or 1/8th notes, like the intro to Baja, Walk Don't Run, et cetera.
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jp
Joined: Feb 09, 2007
Posts: 917
Brew City
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Posted on Mar 26 2008 10:05 AM
JakeDobner
This may sound patronizing, but I don't intend for it to sound so.
Don't try to learn surf guitar. Just learn to play guitar first. If you love surf rock then, as you get better that is what you will be able to play. It is near unlikely to just try and learn surf guitar if one has little skill, due to the lead driven nature. I would suggest learn chords first and how to strum a couple tunes before one tries surf. If one can't play a variety of rhythms then there is going to be little hope in playing anything that isn't straight 1/4 or 1/8th notes, like the intro to Baja, Walk Don't Run, et cetera.
Jake is absolutely right. You really need to learn to walk with Chuck Berry before you can run with Dick Dale. There are more ways to learn basic guitar technique out there than ever before. It really boils down to your learning style. Get a teacher, a couple of method books, dvds, software, take online lessons or any combination of the above.
I'm a big believer in learning songs by ear and writing them down yourself if need be. It is the best way to learn and you will be amazed at how quickly you will develop that way. Given the ability to slow down songs, pause and loop parts while your trying to learn them makes it all the easier. Imagine trying to learn songs from a 45 in 1962 vs putting a cd in a guitar trainer or your computer. You should be able to get it together in no time.
If surf guitar is really where your heart is start with basic stuff like Duane Eddy, the Fireballs, the Revels, Tornadoes (bustin' surfboards Tornadoes), Astronauts, the easier Ventures tunes. A lot of the great surf/instro stuff from back in the day was written and recorded by teenagers. Few of whom would be considered prodigies or virtuosos by today's standards. The music is awesome, but it is in all reality fairly basic. Start learning the rhythm guitar parts if the leads are too hard at first. Be patient and have fun with it.
I'm far from a great guitar player and have only been playing seriously for a couple of years, but this approach has worked for me in spades.
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Brian
Joined: Feb 25, 2006
Posts: 19265
Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Mar 26 2008 10:31 AM
Great advice, jp!
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Mar 26 2008 04:25 PM
JakeDobner
...Don't try to learn surf guitar. Just learn to play guitar first.
Jake has great advice here...besides books, DVD, playing along with tunes, and teachers, you might consider finding a friend who knows about guitar (or bass) and try working out some things together...playing together makes practice way more fun...
also, if you have any recording gear (even a simple cassette recorder will do) you can record how things are progressing and really listen to what you are doing. Really learning to hear and listen is one of the least mentioned aspects of learning to play guitar, but, in my estimation one of the most critical. Learn how to tune-up properly...by ear...
Play your major and minor chords 1,000,000 times forwards and backwards (A,B,C,D,E,F, G Am, Bm, Cm, Dm, Em, Fm, Gm)...learn your barre chords!
good luck,
-dp
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Mar 26 2008 04:38 PM
one last thing...be sure to visit Youtube...whenever I'm trying to learn a new tune it seems that I end up at the Youtube checking out how someone else played it...it's a pretty cool learning resource...
Here's a free lesson from John of the Lively Ones:
surf guitar old school style
here's some dude playing a nice slow version of "Walk Don't Run"
Walk Don't Run lesson on Youtube
Lastly, here's little "Chicchi" playing Walk Don't Run with Nokie Edwards...this one wmight make you want to give up on guitar forever, but don't let it get you down...
Nokie and Chicchi
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planish
Joined: Jan 09, 2008
Posts: 473
Sackville, New Brunswick
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Posted on Apr 04 2008 01:54 AM
A metronome, or something like it, is sometimes handy. I have an old mechanical windup "Taktell" metronome (somewhere in the house) but it's more fun to use my old Yamaha Portasound keyboard/synth, with its built-in percussion rhythms. None of them are very good for Surf, but I can use some of the simpler Rock patterns, and I can adjust the tempo to whatever I want.
Otherwise, I tend to slow down on the hard parts and speed up through the easy parts.
It depends. some tunes call for a bit of swing, where it doesn't follow a clock-like perfect tempo.
— I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.
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