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pyrobob Joined: Apr 27, 2006 Posts: 251 Auburn, CA	Posted on Mar 10 2008 05:30 PM Somewhat off topic but... The last time we played @ the mystic in petaluma, ca, a guy came up to me after the show and said, "you guys are great man, and I love your hair...you're a shitty guitar player, but you got great hair man!" Bob Bitchin' Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25538 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Mar 10 2008 05:34 PM PhatTele I hear that from bar owners. It's tough to get gigs when what they think they're looking for is dance music and they can't equate instrumentals with dancing. When the bar owners say that. reply shouldn't people dance to the beat of the drums, not a vocal line? ha ha, that stops people dead in their tracks everytime. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on Mar 10 2008 06:01 PM DaneBrammage_ tormentos were playing pipeline and this guy walks on stage and starts singing it! he sings the whole song as if he knew all of some inexisting lyrics and when the song ends ,he salutes the audience and left..... haha! That reminds me of the vocal version of "Hawaii-5-0" done by Deadman's Curve. "Hawaii 5-0 theme tuuuuuuune, Hawaii 5-0 theeeeeeeeeeeeme! Polynesians are coming for you, Polynesians in a big-ass canoe!" How about the ORIGINAL? It was done by the late Don Ho. At the last minute,the producers decided on an instrumental version for the TV Series. — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Top
P2gee Joined: Jul 05, 2006 Posts: 264 Waco Texas	Posted on Mar 10 2008 06:08 PM I think alot of this problem can be traced to one word......kareoke!! Think about it, in kareoke bars all over the world, roomfuls of drunks are being conditoned to believe when an instrumental tune starts up, somebody has to stand up and belt out some lyrics. I may be wrong........but then again I may be right. — 2012-2013: FILTHY POLAROIDS Top
Rob_J Joined: Sep 29, 2007 Posts: 500 Sacto, CA	Posted on Mar 10 2008 06:48 PM Great topic. I've often wondered how instrumental bands handle this sort of thing, because it's bound to happen. I'm in a still forming instrumental band, playing primarily surf, and while we have yet to perform anywhere, I've already begun to think about how we will handle it when this inevitably happens. I've always been drawn to all instrumental bands, (probably because I don't sing myself). It's pretty amazing how the vast majority of the music listening public out there can't relate to music without vocals. Instrumental music has worked for several decades for The Ventures, and that's good enough for me. Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5297 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Mar 10 2008 06:57 PM P2gee I think alot of this problem can be traced to one word......kareoke!! Think about it, in kareoke bars all over the world, roomfuls of drunks are being conditoned to believe when an instrumental tune starts up, somebody has to stand up and belt out some lyrics. I may be wrong........but then again I may be right. rooms full of drunks are being conditioned to actually think they can sing..... — www.surfintheeye.com Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on Mar 10 2008 06:57 PM "It's pretty amazing how the vast majority of the music listening public out there can't relate to music without vocals." Actually, it's pretty amazing how the vast majority of the music listening public out there CAN RELATE to crap Pop Vocals without MUSIC! — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Top
Steve-O-San Joined: Jun 15, 2007 Posts: 127	Posted on Mar 10 2008 07:09 PM bigtikidude When the bar owners say that. reply shouldn't people dance to the beat of the drums, not a vocal line? ha ha, that stops people dead in their tracks everytime. Jeff(bigtikidude) I thought they dance to the bass line...we're the footsteps of the band...right? At least, that's what I keep telling myself. A friend of mine once told me that he just wrote some brilliant new lyrics for a Surf Report tune...and then handed me a blank piece of paper. Top
Fripperton Joined: Aug 14, 2006 Posts: 270	Posted on Mar 10 2008 09:34 PM Just tell them this instrumental stuff isn't exactly a new idea. Beethoven wrote tons of music without any lyrics at all. — There is Surf east of Sepulveda. Top
RumorsofsurF Joined: Mar 10, 2007 Posts: 286 Margaritaville, OR	Posted on Mar 10 2008 11:45 PM This is a great thread!! My Dad doesn't understand instrumental music, either. I'm 25, so on the rare occasion we listen to music together, he tires quickly of Surf music and Jazz. I play in a Country band We always have drunks come up to the stage on the somewhat rare occasion we play bars. They ask for the most ridiculous things! We only play two songs where I get to crank the reverb and tremolo: "Runaway", and "Stampede" by Chris LeDoux... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KBOA9zLK88 I wish I was in a Surf band. Top
tormentos Joined: Jun 20, 2006 Posts: 188	Posted on Mar 11 2008 12:22 AM Fripperton Just tell them this instrumental stuff isn't exactly a new idea. Beethoven wrote tons of music without any lyrics at all. Makes me wonder.... the people passionate about music,as we are, love the sounds. But Most people only relate the the "song" formula, may be they need the story or some words to relate to...Before the Beatles intro music was pretty popular arround the world. after that the Rock & pop music was trapped inside that very formula. Dont get me wrong i love a good song but the point im trying to make is that the power of voice+words touches something in mostly everybody... Top
RumorsofsurF Joined: Mar 10, 2007 Posts: 286 Margaritaville, OR	Posted on Mar 11 2008 12:45 AM Everyone these days are so used to the "formula" pop/country/rap/hiphop (It's all the same these days) music, that anything different is uncool.... Top
DennistheMenace Joined: Dec 29, 2007 Posts: 714 Southeast, Florida	Posted on Mar 11 2008 01:00 AM RumorsofsurF Everyone these days are so used to the "formula" pop/country/rap/hiphop (It's all the same these days) music, that anything different is uncool.... Everyone these days are so used to the "formula" pop/country/rap/hiphop (It's all the same these days) music.... Don't count me in on that category.......and I'm sure I'm not alone....... YOU....ARE NOT ALONE!!!..... p.s And you're right, "It's all the same." But in my book, I call it the way I see it....KRAPP!!_ pardon my Irish/Italian mentality.... _ — .......make the Mos' of it, .....choose the 'rite stuff! .........owner of 9 Mosrites proud owner and documented: 1963 "The Ventures" Model s/n# 0038 http://www.vintagerock4.com www.mosriteforum.com Last edited: Mar 25, 2008 00:08:12 Top
MikeG Joined: Mar 29, 2006 Posts: 309 Springfield, Oregon	Posted on Mar 25 2008 12:00 AM I sing, and then people don't say that anymore. Top
BillyBlastOff Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1070 Ventura County, Calif.	Posted on Mar 25 2008 12:22 AM Great subject! Here's the deal. If a band puts themself in the limelight of a venue that supports a whole bunch of tourists. The band better be ready for a few vocal requests. The more ammo the better. Don't limit yourself. Anybody can whip out a few surf tunes, but, in my experience, always be ready for that curveball. FWIW. Billy — Be careful following the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent........................... Top
Spud Joined: Jul 23, 2007 Posts: 666 Oz	Posted on Mar 25 2008 12:52 AM MikeG I sing, and then people don't say that anymore. I hear that one Mike, songs for me to sing have to be right in my range to sound anywhere near like good, I'm more the backing guy for our singer. The instrumental section of our 'show' is going down a treat amongst the punters with requests of more of the same. It's early days for us on this instrumental thing, but the signs are good. Top

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