diceophonic
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Posted on Feb 25 2008 01:27 PM
badash
I like! kinda like a user friendly fuzz factory, and you don't have to deal with a douche to get one A little pricey though 
Yeah no doubt man for almost $200 bones it better have some kick ass fuzz but I wouldn't buy it though.
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dutch
Joined: Apr 27, 2007
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Posted on Feb 25 2008 07:06 PM
Was always partial to the SuperFuzz...I have had this for about 9 years...LOVE IT.
Yea yea, I know about my flight control board...too much stuff, even for me.

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eltwang
Joined: Feb 26, 2008
Posts: 543
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted on Feb 26 2008 03:16 AM
Lovetone Cheese. Excellent box that'll probably cover all your fuzzy needs. I've looked no further since I bought one.
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Hangin8bits
Joined: Feb 26, 2008
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Posted on Feb 26 2008 03:29 PM
If you're handy with a soldering iron you can build your own.
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
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Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Feb 26 2008 03:49 PM
I never use a fuzz for surf but I do use the Ibanez tube screamer in the wedding band (yeah damnit...wedding band) I play in. It's the only fuzz pedal I've had for overdrive. It's very flexible and easy to set and sounds awesome at low amp volumes. Most of the time i just push the front end of a 40 watt Fender amp with my '68 Les Paul Custom, and Mummmmmm good! Don't need no stinkin' pedals......ed
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diceophonic
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Posted on Feb 26 2008 05:02 PM
eddiekatcher
I never use a fuzz for surf but I do use the Ibanez tube screamer in the wedding band (yeah damnit...wedding band) I play in. It's the only fuzz pedal I've had for overdrive. It's very flexible and easy to set and sounds awesome at low amp volumes. Most of the time i just push the front end of a 40 watt Fender amp with my '68 Les Paul Custom, and Mummmmmm good! Don't need no stinkin' pedals......ed
Nop this future what ever "Fuzz" pedal I get is not going to be used for surf but for other projects.
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
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Portland, OR
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 01:34 AM
eddiekatcher
I never use a fuzz for surf but I do use the Ibanez tube screamer in the wedding band (yeah damnit...wedding band) I play in. It's the only fuzz pedal I've had for overdrive. It's very flexible and easy to set and sounds awesome at low amp volumes. Most of the time i just push the front end of a 40 watt Fender amp with my '68 Les Paul Custom, and Mummmmmm good! Don't need no stinkin' pedals......ed
Yeah, you're describing an OVERDRIVE pedal though. Overdrives (TS-808, OD-1, MXR Dist+) are great for getting a workable distortion tone through a clean amp at reasonable volumes (simulating a cranked amp).
On the other hand, FUZZ is a completely different effect that isn't trying to simulate a cranked amp but instead a cranked amp with misbiased tubes and a ripped speaker cone!!
spy
Why not a Fuzz-Face?
Sorry if this has been answered but I didn't read the whole thread....
By the way I have no experience with fuzz stompboxes, just asking.
The Fuzz Face is a great Fuzz pedal...and a true FUZZ...but it sounds mushier, bassier, and smoother than a Si Fuzz like the Fuzzrite or Shin-Ei (which sound more trebley, biting, and wasp-like which I think is closer to to the sound that Kyle's looking for).
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spy
Joined: Mar 29, 2007
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Athens, Greece
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 03:38 AM
The Fuzz Face is a great Fuzz pedal...and a true FUZZ...but it sounds mushier, bassier, and smoother than a Si Fuzz like the Fuzzrite or Shin-Ei (which sound more trebley, biting, and wasp-like which I think is closer to to the sound that Kyle's looking for).
thanks surfmole....
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bomboraboy
Joined: May 26, 2007
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 04:14 AM
I just built myself a Fuzzrite. Very easy circuit, easier than my FuzzFace, that never worked properly. Just 4 capacitors, 4 Resistors, 2 Transistors. At first I was not so happy with the sound, but by switching the capacitors you can pretty well change it. I just spent 5$ on it.
I put in a pot to create sounds like a Theremin. I'm very pleased with it. Plus there's no feeling of:"oh no, not again new gear." but "yes, it works, I can do it."
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spy
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Athens, Greece
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 04:29 AM
bomboraboy
I put in a pot to create sounds like a Theremin. I'm very pleased with it. Plus there's no feeling of:"oh no, not again new gear." but "yes, it works, I can do it."
Where did you put the pot?
When you play guitar it sounds like a Theremin?
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bomboraboy
Joined: May 26, 2007
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 05:41 AM
spy
bomboraboy hat Folgendes geschrieben:
I put in a pot to create sounds like a Theremin. I'm very pleased with it. Plus there's no feeling of:"oh no, not again new gear." but "yes, it works, I can do it."
Where did you put the pot? Confused
When you play guitar it sounds like a Theremin?
I put a 100K pot between the Emitors of the transistors and the ground. When the Resistor is on, it creates a buzzing. The pitch can now be adjusted with the new pot and the fuzz pot.
It was just luck, I'm not a technician but it's very funny to play with. You can dial in an E and then play Misirlou, sounds very funny.
Maybe I can get the hooter like on squad car. 
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
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Portland, OR
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 06:04 AM
What transistors did you use for your Fuzzrite clone (and what schematic)?
Si or Ge?
The Fuzz Face is a PITA to build and have it sound good! That's why every Dunlop reissue and many of the originals are so terrible due to the choice of transistors and/or lack of tweaking each fuzz individually. To get a good Fuzz Face you have to have good non-leaky Ge transistors that are in the right gain range for each stage...then you have to bias them properly (which usually requires tweaking the circuit and not using standard resistor values). Germanium Fuzzes are the one pedal in which it's necessary to build it yourself and/or buy a boutique clone in my opinion due to the amount of tweaking required to have it sound "right". When it does though it's a great sounding pedal!!
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bomboraboy
Joined: May 26, 2007
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 07:14 AM
SURFmole
What transistors did you use for your Fuzzrite clone (and what schematic)?
Si or Ge?
I used two BC337 silicium transistors as replacements for the TZ82.
http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/schematics/fuzzriteschem.gif
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WR
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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netherlands
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 08:34 AM
I remebered this net-store in germany which carries matched sets and triplesets of germanium transistors, for anyone who cares. Im sure you can get the same stuff in the US, but I thought Id pass the info anyway.
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Hangin8bits
Joined: Feb 26, 2008
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 08:47 AM
Small Bear Electronics in the US has matched Germanium transistors and includes resistor values. Heck of a nice guy with everything you need for pedal building.
-H8b
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DennistheMenace
Joined: Dec 29, 2007
Posts: 714
Southeast, Florida
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 09:37 AM
bomboraboy
spy
bomboraboy hat Folgendes geschrieben:
I put in a pot to create sounds like a Theremin. I'm very pleased with it. Plus there's no feeling of:"oh no, not again new gear." but "yes, it works, I can do it."
Where did you put the pot? Confused
When you play guitar it sounds like a Theremin?
I put a 100K pot between the Emitors of the transistors and the ground. When the Resistor is on, it creates a buzzing. The pitch can now be adjusted with the new pot and the fuzz pot.
It was just luck, I'm not a technician but it's very funny to play with. You can dial in an E and then play Misirlou, sounds very funny.
Maybe I can get the hooter like on squad car. 
Bomboraboy, so you are saying, that with the 100Kpot installed, that you
can change the pitch?
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diceophonic
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 10:57 AM
SURFmole
Si Fuzz like the Fuzzrite or Shin-Ei (which sound more trebley, biting, and wasp-like which I think is closer to to the sound that Kyle's looking for).
That's the the ticket Scot 
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
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Portland, OR
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 10:59 AM
Hangin8bits
Small Bear Electronicsin the US has matched Germanium transistors and includes resistor values. Heck of a nice guy with everything you need for pedal building.
-H8b
Agreed!! Smallbear is the best source for pedalbuilding goods and a cool guy to do business with. His Germanium trannies are good too although I've found the resistor values he includes to be "questionable" (in other words I seldom go with his values).
I've got a stash of 2N2222A transistors I can use and am planning on building a prototype this weekend...
diceophonic
That's the the ticket Scot 
I'll see how the Fuzzrite with Si transistors sounds....
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Hangin8bits
Joined: Feb 26, 2008
Posts: 37
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 11:16 AM
SURFmole
Hangin8bits
Small Bear Electronicsin the US has matched Germanium transistors and includes resistor values. Heck of a nice guy with everything you need for pedal building.
-H8b
Agreed!! Smallbear is the best source for pedalbuilding goods and a cool guy to do business with. His Germanium trannies are good too although I've found the resistor values he includes to be "questionable" (in other words I seldom go with his values).
I've got a stash of 2N2222A transistors I can use and am planning on building a prototype this weekend...
I haven't ordered any Ge trans from him yet, so I will keep that in mind. Thanks for the tip!
Post how it goes! I'll report on the Orpheum when I get that far (it's a Si fuzz as well).
-H8b
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diceophonic
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Posted on Feb 27 2008 11:21 AM
SURFmole
Hangin8bits
Small Bear Electronicsin the US has matched Germanium transistors and includes resistor values. Heck of a nice guy with everything you need for pedal building.
-H8b
Agreed!! Smallbear is the best source for pedalbuilding goods and a cool guy to do business with. His Germanium trannies are good too although I've found the resistor values he includes to be "questionable" (in other words I seldom go with his values).
I've got a stash of 2N2222A transistors I can use and am planning on building a prototype this weekend...
diceophonic
That's the the ticket Scot 
I'll see how the Fuzzrite with Si transistors sounds....
Scot use what ever you think will make this Fuzz pedal sound killer and vintage like 
— -Kyle
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