Hey Steve,
thats friggin' funny.
and very familiar to me.

I would say that there is around
10 to 25 thousand surf fans,

but finding them, and getting the info to them that you are back,
and going to be releasing a new cd is very very hard.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Jeff,

Sorry to have to ask this, it may be a big "duh" on my part but who are you referring to....who is Steve?

E

Damn...I should have known by his "1 loud Bass" name.
Sorry Steve....LOL Eddie

Jeff...10 to 25 thousand makes me happy. Lets make it grow everyone.

Eddie

I can only imagine that finding compatible players that suit your style and vision must be a difficult process. Good luck!

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Man, I don't know how I overlooked your band. I heard a few tracks recently (because of this thread) and now I have to locate a CD. Nice work!

I'd audition for the Showmen!! Good luck finding players Eddie. It's rough finding players through ads, so many times their view of surf is so far off, as I'm sure you've found already.

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Hey Bill,

To bad you live in Chicago...I would jam with you in a heart beat. Your comment about the ads and how some people perceive surf music is right on. If they sound cool during the phone meeting I have been sending them 4 or 5 songs from the Squad Car CD. If they don't get it by hearing the songs then it's a lost cause of course. One drummer was cool enough to call back after trying to play with the stuff I sent him and said "man I just can't get it, takes a lot more energy than I thought”. It has helped sending my songs to the people that are contacting me. It gives them an idea what they need to be able to handle.

Thanks for your comments Bill.

Warm Regards,

Eddie

Wow .... What an honor it is to me to see those pix of your band.
Man, I would have to find a red sweater just like yours or mine. In fact I should so I can wear it at some of the shows I will be doing.

You made my day Bill.

Yeah the triplets are hard for most guitar players. I don't know why, seems easy and natural to me. Just have to have a fast right hand and a strong sense of timing. Nobody said playing surf music was easy….LOL

Thanks so much for the post.

Sincerely
Eddie

EddieBertrand_
Yeah the triplets are hard for most guitar players. I don't know why, seems easy and natural to me. Just have to have a fast right hand and a strong sense of timing. Nobody said playing surf music was easy….LOL

Man, ain't this the truth. People often dismiss surf music as simplistic - and no doubt, some of it is very simple (no less brilliant for that - maybe actually MORE brilliant for that!). But every musician I've ever played surf music with has said that it's a lot more difficult than they expected it would be. I think it's because good surf music is always primarily about the song, and if the song is strong listeners don't notice the parts actually being played - their attention is not drawn to that. But once you have to replicate those parts or play things like them, even the most experienced musicians will soon find that it's not so easy. Eddie & the Showmen stuff is pretty sophisticated for the most part, and I'm sure that most musicians would be challanged by it quite a bit. I find that to also be the case with the Astronauts, the Fender IV (who has ever played the opening chords to Malibu Run right?), the Lively Ones and DD's stuff, too, (and let's not even talk about the Shadows and the Ventures) but probably the most with the Atlantics. Those guys were way out there and replicating their songs is almost impossible. Every time I suggest we try another Atlantics song in the Madeira, I get a collective groan from my band. After we recorded one of their songs two weeks ago and were listening to the playback, in wonder at how they possibly could have come up with all that stuff, I said that it really makes you appreciate their genius. Patrick's reply was, yeah, I hate them. (Joking, of course, just because it's so hard to play their songs.)

Anyway, this is one of the popular perceptions of surf music that really irritates me - that it's always simple and simplistic and doesn't require much musicianship. I guess it also comes from the fact that most of it was played by teenagers or people in their early twenties. But like Bill said, it's hard to find adults today that have the musical skills that very young people had back then. That says something.....

Nevertheless, good musicians will quickly realize the musicality present in good surf music and will respond to it by rising to the challenge, elevating their game, and being able to pull it off. Both Dusty Watson and Dave Wronski stepped up to the challenged laid down by John Blair - they didn't grow up playing surf music. And look at 'em now...

Good luck, Eddie, though it may take a while to find the right people, I'm sure you'll find them eventually. And I'm sure all of us will be blown away once again with your new music.

Ivan

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EddieBertrand_
Yeah the triplets are hard for most guitar players. I don't know why, seems easy and natural to me. Just have to have a fast right hand and a strong sense of timing. Nobody said playing surf music was easy….LOL

Man, ain't this the truth. People often dismiss surf music as simplistic - and no doubt, some of it is very simple (no less brilliant for that - maybe actually MORE brilliant for that!). But every musician I've ever played surf music with has said that it's a lot more difficult than they expected it would be. I think it's because good surf music is always primarily about the song, and if the song is strong listeners don't notice the parts actually being played - their attention is not drawn to that. But once you have to replicate those parts or play things like them, even the most experienced musicians will soon find that it's not so easy. Eddie & the Showmen stuff is pretty sophisticated for the most part, and I'm sure that most musicians would be challanged by it quite a bit. I find that to also be the case with the Astronauts, the Fender IV (who has ever played the opening chords to Malibu Run right?), the Lively Ones and DD's stuff, too, (and let's not even talk about the Shadows and the Ventures) but probably the most with the Atlantics. Those guys were way out there and replicating their songs is almost impossible. Every time I suggest we try another Atlantics song in the Madeira, I get a collective groan from my band. After we recorded one of their songs two weeks ago and were listening to the playback, in wonder at how they possibly could have come up with all that stuff, I said that it really makes you appreciate their genius. Patrick's reply was, yeah, I hate them. (Joking, of course, just because it's so hard to play their songs.)

Anyway, this is one of the popular perceptions of surf music that really irritates me - that it's always simple and simplistic and doesn't require much musicianship. I guess it also comes from the fact that most of it was played by teenagers or people in their early twenties. But like Bill said, it's hard to find adults today that have the musical skills that very young people had back then. That says something.....

Nevertheless, good musicians will quickly realize the musicality present in good surf music and will respond to it by rising to the challenge, elevating their game, and being able to pull it off. Both Dusty Watson and Dave Wronski stepped up to the challenged laid down by John Blair - they didn't grow up playing surf music. And look at 'em now...

Good luck, Eddie, though it may take a while to find the right people, I'm sure you'll find them eventually. And I'm sure all of us will be blown away once again with your new music.

Ivan

Good post Ivan, you know sometimes I think the rhythm guitar is the hardest instrument in surf. Once you get a good grasp of double picking on 1 string you've got 90% of the lead work down. Your Shadow's tribute band is a good example, and although Hank Marvin's leads are more difficult than your average surf lead, so kudos to you. But I remember being blown away by your dad's timing and rhythm.

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